For one thing, that guy from the airplane episode already told Sam that daddy!Winchester was proud of him
Ohhh you have better memories than I have, I'd completely forgotten about that! You're so right. I have to say his issues annoyed me a bit in the sense that for a moment it sounded almost, I don't know, forced or something. I mean, it was like he needed to have daddy issue so he took that one. Which I know, isn't fair but that's how I felt for a moment.
Now that you reminded me of that episode, it feels even more annoying somehow.
Me too! I love seeing how devoted Dean is to him. How loyal and how much he loves him and believes in him. And I think that makes sense.
To me, it's also due to the fact that for two years, Dean and his dad fought together without the last member of their hunting group. I mean, even if daddy!Winchester was proud of Sam, he had to feel hurt to have lost" one of his two sons - that would have made Dean even more protective of their dad, maybe. And it had to make them even closer in any case. Like you said, Dean's devotion for his father is a joy to see *g*
I think it was supposed to further illustrate the difference between Sam and Dean.
That's what it was, but what I meant was - I mean, it was so much In Our Face. It came on too strong, almost. What happened to subtle? It's been clear from the first episode that Dean lies and obfuscates but a) it's necessary and b) Sam goes with the flow as well, it's not as if they can tell the truth all the time.
Which brings me to the Native American Dude scene and I'm with you, I really disliked the fact that he got on Dean's case. Didn't like the distinction between the two either *shakes head*
He's devoted his whole life to it the way Sam never did, so it's not like he can just give it up the way Sam did
Yeah but technically, Sam never even knew a different life, the Hunting Life was literally everything he's ever known. Without a point of reference, he could have completely assimilated it and not even want to try something else. He could also have been quite eager to punish whatever robbed him from the Normal Life he never ever had.
Which I know is a moot point since that's exactly the opposite that happened. But yeah, I'm really interested in the whole thing *g*
I'm going to have to ramble more about this in my own journal. XD I have SO many thoughts about it.
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That he certainly does *nods*
For one thing, that guy from the airplane episode already told Sam that daddy!Winchester was proud of him
Ohhh you have better memories than I have, I'd completely forgotten about that! You're so right. I have to say his issues annoyed me a bit in the sense that for a moment it sounded almost, I don't know, forced or something. I mean, it was like he needed to have daddy issue so he took that one. Which I know, isn't fair but that's how I felt for a moment.
Now that you reminded me of that episode, it feels even more annoying somehow.
Me too! I love seeing how devoted Dean is to him. How loyal and how much he loves him and believes in him. And I think that makes sense.
To me, it's also due to the fact that for two years, Dean and his dad fought together without the last member of their hunting group. I mean, even if daddy!Winchester was proud of Sam, he had to feel hurt to have lost" one of his two sons - that would have made Dean even more protective of their dad, maybe. And it had to make them even closer in any case. Like you said, Dean's devotion for his father is a joy to see *g*
I think it was supposed to further illustrate the difference between Sam and Dean.
That's what it was, but what I meant was - I mean, it was so much In Our Face. It came on too strong, almost. What happened to subtle? It's been clear from the first episode that Dean lies and obfuscates but a) it's necessary and b) Sam goes with the flow as well, it's not as if they can tell the truth all the time.
Which brings me to the Native American Dude scene and I'm with you, I really disliked the fact that he got on Dean's case. Didn't like the distinction between the two either *shakes head*
He's devoted his whole life to it the way Sam never did, so it's not like he can just give it up the way Sam did
Yeah but technically, Sam never even knew a different life, the Hunting Life was literally everything he's ever known. Without a point of reference, he could have completely assimilated it and not even want to try something else. He could also have been quite eager to punish whatever robbed him from the Normal Life he never ever had.
Which I know is a moot point since that's exactly the opposite that happened. But yeah, I'm really interested in the whole thing *g*
I'm going to have to ramble more about this in my own journal. XD I have SO many thoughts about it.
Looking forward to reading those thoughts :-)