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Big question of the day: do I watch SPN 4x21 or do I wait till next week, when I'll be able to watch both episodes in a row? Dilemma, dilemma!

I finally caught up with Dollhouse. I'll definitely cry if the show doesn't get a second season because it's so good! Though I'll admit that I was a tad disappointed with 1x11 but I think it's my own fault - after seeing everyone gush about it, I guess I was waiting for something different. But it was good, I liked it! Just not how I thought I would. Expectations should be banned.

Anyway, back to 1x11 - I have a spoilery question about something dominic!Victor said when he was in the chair, being interrogated. Did he call Saunders 'Whiskey'? I mean, I know they went for the 'he's asking for a drink' approach, but that sounds like bullshit when you know 'whiskey' is another code, like Echo and Victor etc. So was he looking at Saunders?

Or is it really just a coincidence and I'm seeing twists where there is none?

When I try to make sense of it, I don't really come up with anything valuable because ok, so let's say she is a doll... there's no way anyone would imprint her with a personality that's so attentive and attached to the dolls' well being - cause it could be dangerous in the long run. Or is it like what Topher called it once, something that goes 'deeper than memory'? Like she's instinctively trying to protect the dolls because something in her remembers being one?

Except! Yeah, when you think of it, she does talk about about how her goal is to protect all of the dolls and she certainly does prove it in 1x09, so she's definitely doing things that benefit Dollhouse...

In any case, it would also explain why she's living there 24/7.

Also, is she another kind of doll, like Mellie is? Or is it something else altogether? And, ok, I was thinking - if she was a doll like Echo and the others, maybe they decided to give her another function when she got scarred so badly? If being a doll means being 'flawless', her scars would get in the way of the whole 'pimping' thing somehow, maybe? And! Does it mean that they might do the same with Victor now?!!

I know we saw what happened when Alpha went on his rampage, but I don't remember whether it was from the characters' point of view - because if it was, then of course Saunders would remember it 'uncorrectly'.

Or maybe she's just like Mellie and being a doctor is her sole purpose.

If she is, indeed, a doll and if Dominic was really talking to her and if he really was calling for someone as opposed to really asking for a drink, like she said. That's a lot of 'if'. Also, I would have thought 'whiskey' would be given to a male doll as opposed to a female one but that might be because I'm thinking of how in French, 'whisky' is masculine ('du' whisky, 'un' whisky) and not feminine?

Wow, so many speculations for something that might mean nothing at all lol So, anyway, see? I did like 1x11 - and actually, thinking of other scenes than the one I mentioned above, I'm realising I might have liked it better than I first thought. Ok, then!

Do we only have two episodes left for this season? Damn. Two episodes and we have no Supernatural and no Dollhouse anymore, how sad! I'm looking forward to the Glee premiere but apart from that, it feels like I won't have any show to watch omg! What is supposed to air in the next month/s? Or is it a sign I just should catch up with those other shows I've been downloading but not watched... or worse, yet, that I've been meaning to download but haven't? Ahem.

Oh! Speaking of shows; I've received my shiny ST:TOS season 1 box-set yesterday, wheee! It's gonna bring back memories, dude!

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Je n'avais pas fait attention à Whiskey avant de le lire online, et l'opinion principale a l'air d'être que Claire est une doll. Il y a tellement de rebondissements dans cette série (un peu trop, même, ça ne fait plus très sérieux, je trouve) que plus rien ne m'étonne.

Il ne reste plus qu'un épisode. Par contre, il y aura un autre épisode qui ne sera que sur le DVD, mais qui sera un peu différent.

Etant donné que je ne sais pas si tu as vu l'épisode, je ne vais pas te dire si oui ou non j'avais raison ; mais en tout cas c'est sympa de s'accrocher à un détail et de spéculer comme ça :-)

Et je ne sais pas si tu as vu, mais apparemment c'est bon, Fox a renouvelé la série ? On aura donc une seconde (ou 'deuxième' si on a de la chance) saison cet automne \o/

Je suis plutôt curieuse de voir ce que va donner cet épisode.

Oui, j'ai vu l'épisode, et la scène avec Whiskey était hot ! Moi qui voulait du Echo/Claire, maintenant je veux encore plus du Echo/Whiskey ! ^^

Ah, super nouvelle ! ^__^

You know what would be cool? If Saunders was a doll (though, honestly, at this point I expect everyone to be a doll :D) and maybe Dominic was her handler at some point and that's why he called out to her specifically.

...yeah, I have no idea where that came from, it just occurred to me while reading your post.

But I definitely don't think he was talking about wanting a drink. ;)

there's no way anyone would imprint her with a personality that's so attentive and attached to the dolls' well being

Could be one of those things that they can't control, like how one of Echo's imprints needed glasses and stuff. They needed an awesome doctor who was willing to do the kind of work Saunders does and the attachment was just part of the package.

Oh, I can't wait till tomorrow's ep. :D

I'm looking forward to the Glee premiere but apart from that, it feels like I won't have any show to watch omg!

I know, this time of year is always sad like that. I hate seeing my shows end. *clings*

Big question of the day: do I watch SPN 4x21 or do I wait till next week, when I'll be able to watch both episodes in a row?

I totally fast forwarded through the majority of it. I couldn't stand not knowing what happens, but I don't think I'll be able to really properly watch it till it's all over.

So have you watched the Dollhouse season finale? Can't say much about it - or my entry - if you haven't. I definitely wouldn't want to spoil you in any way...

And have you heard, we'll get a season 2! Apparently Fox decided not to be dumb and renewed the show \o/

I haven't watched either SPN yet - I was supposed to watch both episodes with the FP tonight, except I'm not feelin well so I think I'm gonna stay in. Well, I'll just watch them on my own. And probably cry alone?

I have watched it! And I did hear about season 2! I'm really glad because in some way it took until the last couple of eps for the show to really hit the "holy fuck awesome" point so I'm very excited for more.

I'm sorry you're not feeling well. *hugs*

As for SPN...the first part is definitely a tearjerker so tissues are probably are a good idea. ;) Looking forward to seeing what you have to say about it. :)

I was so glad to hear Fox gave Dollhouse a chance. Like you said, it took some time before it found its rhythm but once it did, it was difficult to look away. I'm really looking forward to the new season.

Thanks, it's your usual bad time of the month. Two days of pain and then it's over. It does suck though *glares*

Looking forward to seeing what you have to say about it. :)

Funny you'd say that because I really meant to just flail a little and then I started writing and writing and in the end I wrote this big-ass review. Well, that's SPN for you :-)

Your post is the first one where I saw the Whiskey!Claire theory! I don't have that many reviewers on my flist, though.

sockich is right - by this point I expect everyone involved to be a doll. :D

I'll ignore the 'not that many reviewers on your flist' and go for the 'I'm an original thinker' theory :-) But since I don't remember whether you've watched the ep or not, I won't say anything about it...

Haha, I've watched it, so yeah! :D

Ok, in that case : *is totally smug*

Je suis en train de rattraper mon retard avec SPN et je me pose la même question :-) Je pense que je vais regarder les 2 d'un coup, histoire de ne pas mourir de curiosité dans l'intervalle :-)

Au final c'est ce que j'ai décidé. Donc là je vais me faire les deux épisodes à la suite... Quand j'arrive aux deux derniers épisodes d'une saison de SPN, je suis toujours à la fois super impatiente de les regarder et super anxieuse donc faut juste que je me lance à un moment donné :-)

I decided to keep the ep for next week and watch both eps at once *nods, all determined*

That's what I did too; apparently it was the right decision. I can't wait to watch the two episodes tonight... except I'm also quite anxious because omg, SPN season finale!

From my POV, if you can wait, I think it would be better to watch this week's and next week's back to back. This week's was all about set-up, for good reason, but the pay-off isn't coming until next week.

I was an obedient girl and followed your advice. Sometime tonight I'll watch both episodes... and certainly die a little? I'm unspoiled but, well, it's SPN, right? :-)

The SPN finale this season was the most hopeful one they've ever done...which is weird to say considering the subject matter. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did! :D

I totally thought when he said whiskey he meant the (presumed) doll not the drink. I've always, in the back of my mind, thought that maybe Saunders is a doll. Topher a bit too but mostly Saunders. I don't know about whether she is whiskey but it's definitely an interesting thought. It would explain why Adele explained it away as a request for a drink because she'd be one of few who'd know Saunders was a doll.

In other news I thought the guy who plays Victor was fabulous as Dominic. He's probably the actor that's impressed me the most in the whole show.

I didn't even think of the drink either when he said 'whiskey'. Well, I don't want to spoil you if you haven't watched the season finale yet so I won't say anything about it :-)

Oh, yes, he was just fantastic! Victor's character was the great surprise of the show for me. I love him so much! Same thing with Mellie.

Have seen it *G* way to call that, Ms Mouse! *G* it was awesome! I didn't consider the drink at the time either, not for a moment.

Viiiiiiiktor. I hope he's in the next season, he's freakin' awesome! (and I hope Miracle is back, she's fabulous and gorgeous)

They can't take away both Victor and Mellie! I mean, if Mellie is really gone, then it'll be sad enough. They can't take him away too *clings*

I will be VERY SADFACES if they do!

Oh, I really like your speculations about Dr Saunders!

I didn't notice the Whisky thing, but there's something else I've noticed: Alpha asked her if she'd always wanted to be a doctor, and when she said yes he said she was lying. Why would he ask her that in the first place? I don't think the question was totally random.
Maybe they've imprinted her to be a doctor. Maybe they did it after Alpha disfigured her, since they couldn't use her as a doll anymore?

And what are they gonna do with Victor, btw?

So many questions!!! :D

And I really loved the actor who plays Victor when he's being Dominic. He was awesome!

So we talked about the ep on Wednesday but yes I was pretty proud of my speculations about Saunders, and even prouder when it turns out I was right about her being a doll \o/

I'm so worried about Victor now! I apparently already lost Mellie, I can't lose Victor as well!!

Maybe you should wait next week to watch spn...

Tonight I'll finally watch the two episodes... I'm so stressed about it, I swear lol

dude! off topic, but check out this icon/graphics post: here. No, not the MCR goodies (although, yummy). scroll down! there you are *g*

Hee you know how to treat a girl! lol That's an awesome post! Thanks :-)

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