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Mouse ([personal profile] castalie) wrote2004-12-09 04:12 pm
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Lost killed me!

OMFG!

I didn't even write an introduction before the cut tag this time because this would mean I'm calm enough and coherent enough to play around the issue and this is so far from the truth that's it not even funny so I'll be direct : OMG OMG OMG I can't believe this episode! I... it shook me up so much you wouldn't believe it - they killed me, KILLED ME, I tell you!

How could they do this to me us?? I thought they'd killed my boy! I thought the pic I'd seen of Jack and Charlie together was a fucking hoax or a deleted scene from a previous scene or I don't fucking know what and that they'd killed their first character and I'd been wrong all along and why did it have to be Charlie - why WHY? Not him, man, not him!

That very first moment when we saw Charlie's hands and we realised he'd been hung creeped me out and I gasped because that image was tough, but I wasn't that worried yet because I was sure Jack would do some quick CPR and my guy would come back... I was so not prepared for what happened next, so not prepared for the violence of the scene. I mean, fucking shit, each time Jack struck Charlie, I was cringing and gasping - it was.. so desperate and just, so violent, I don't know - man, it shook me up. Kate's reaction really was spot on - I loved her quite much during that scene because I was right with her. I didn't want to believe at first like her, then when I started to think Charlie was dead, I sure didn't want to look at Jack hitting him over and over and over and I sure as hell didn't want to listen to the sound of fist meeting chest - and then Jack started to hit harder and faster and he was crying too, refusing to let go and when finally Charlie took his first painful painful breath - man, I took a huge breath with him myself and it felt like my chest was hurting. And then Kate was crying from joy this time and Jack was cradling Charlie close oh so close to him and it was just too good, too good, do you hear me?! *hyperventilates*

Jack? I learnt to like you throughout this first part of this season, but today? I loved you because you cried and you didn't give up and you brought my Charlie back and I'm so grateful, man *sobs in relief* And if anyone doubted your love for Charlie until this moment? Well, you gave them proof enough because Jack/Charlie is so Jim/Blair! I mean, puh-lease, don't tell me you didn't see it? They pulled a Blair on Charlie! Jim and Blair had the Fountain scene, Jack and Charlie now have the Big Bad Tree scene, and like Jim, Jack refused to admit defeat and refused to give up. He had to bring his lover back and he fucking did! And Jack didn't even have a spirit animal like Jim did, so seriously that's a bigger exploit than one could imagine.

Theirloveissoresurrectional!

I don't know if some people will find that scene cheesy or what, but man it worked for me big time...

I FEEL LIKE CRYING, I love that scene so fucking much - what am I saying, I love the whole episode so much - I think they traumatised me forever [/drama queen]

Because yeah something else that made me fall for the episode and fall hard from the very beginning? Oh man, you really need to ask? The SLASH, people, the slash! It was all over the place, just about everywhere! Like, not five minutes after the episode began we already had both Jack and Locke going crazy when they realised their lover had disappeared. Jack's Where's Charlie... Where's Charlie?? was a lover's cry - nothing else. And Locke? Was right with him - only, Locke being Locke he was being more rational, of course. I think we had both Jack/Charlie + Locked/Charlie and Jack/Charlie/Locke here today - depends on how we looked at the scenes. But Jack's despair at finding his lover was really painful to watch and I'm more heavily leaning toward the Jack/Charlie persuasion now, which as of today's episode becomes my Lost OTP1 after all... It was Locke/Charlie first but I'm revising my hierarchy with each new episode so right now, let's say Jack/Charlie OTP1, Locke/Charlie OTP2 and Hurley/Charlie OTP3.

And la cerise sur le gateau... Charlie was all traumatised and mute! Can it get better? *blink*

If we don't get more Jack/Charlie fics after this episode, I don't think we'll ever will. Might as well write my own - though I don't see it happening right now, but damn the potential *purrs*

Aaaaaaaaaand we even had Sayid/Sawer back! Still angsty and stuff, but twas back - sorta.

So huh yeah, now that I found my zen back - sorta...I guess I should talk about, you know, the other things that were creepy and stuff, but it's difficult to focus so let's make it quick :

- Where is Claire? Why did They want her - or her and the baby, obviously. Did Mr Great Seer see all of that or did he totally fuck up and it's his fault we're all in this predicament, like, if the baby becomes evil it'll be because he just saw a tiny portion of what was going to happen on the island?

- Said Others? Are creeping me out, which okay is the point, but it's working.

- What did Locke and Boone find? What's inside? Is there even something inside - is it going somewhere cool and creepy?

- I'm sure I'm forgetting tons of stuff, but sorry it can't be helped because my mind is still on the Big Bad Tree scene, did you even read my review??

Stimadlytrulyhopelesslyinlovewiththatshow!

And dammit but don't tell me we're at the mid-season hiatus and we'll have to wait forever until January to see the rest? *gasp*

ETA: There's something really really fucked up with those people.

[identity profile] aswanargent.livejournal.com 2004-12-09 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Breathe deeply, Castalie, then go lie down in a dark room with a cool cloth over your eyes.

The minute I saw the tree scene last night I thought about you (remembered how you considered and rejected the possibility of Charlie being the one to die in that lost_in_french "Rumeurs" discussion). I reacted to the tree scene exactly the way you did; I couldn't believe how the writers stretched that out and took us from "Of course Jack is going to revive him" to "OMG it's too late, they've REALLY KILLED CHARLIE OFF", and then finally as we're staring at the screen in shock and denial granted all of us a stay of execution. Talk about an emotional rollercoaster!

You realize, don't you, that in the end the writers were kind? What if the episode had ended midway through that scene and we had to wait until January to find out whether Charlie was alive or dead??!!!!??

Best episode to date.

Will probably try posting some fractured French over at lost_in_french once I can get something coherent set down in English for translation. Maybe tomorrow.

[identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com 2004-12-09 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi there *g* Hey call me Mouse, everybody else does *g*

And boy, I should have tried that breathing technique while I was watching the episode because it was almost too much lol

They had me seriously scared worried for a moment because I really thought that they'd decided to surprise us all and that they were going to off one of the characters right in front of me - and a character whose death no one in the audience could have imagined. Damn, they're good, I'll grant them that lol

OMG but you're right! The writers could have ended midway through that scene - it's something they love to do, the evil evil creatures. I should be grateful then, oh yeah.

I second that, best episode to date. It feels like they know how to up the ante, these guys, wow.

You're doing quite well with the whole French thing, so don't hesitate *g*

[identity profile] aswanargent.livejournal.com 2004-12-09 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Kill off a character -- a major character -- right before our eyes? Oh, yes. On this show, with these writers, I think that's a very real possibility. Actually, it's been done before. A few years ago the Law & Order writers killed off an ADA in an automobile accident barely off camera (we heard the crash, just didn't see the impact); then the camera cut back to the intersection and we saw the wreckage and knew she was inside one of the cars. That episode is still hard to watch, even now.

[identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com 2004-12-09 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
This is something I notice more and more, how writers seem to be less and less afraid of killing one of the major characters if they think it does make the storyline better and/or more intense. On one hand, I admire that because it shows they really want to play with their audience, on the other, I always dread the moment when my favourite characters will die because it's always difficult to watch. Being a fan isn't easy in those cases *g*

[identity profile] aswanargent.livejournal.com 2004-12-09 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean about not wanting to see your favourite characters die. If they just leave the show in some other fashion (retire, move to another city, take another job, etc.) there's always the chance that we'll see them again. If they die, well, then it's only a ghost who might reappear. Don't laugh, but NYPD Blue did that this season by having the ghost of Detective Bobby Simone return to give advice to his former partner. I have no idea how it worked; I stopped watching Blue a few years ago when Law & Order: SVUwas moved into the same time slot on Tuesday night.

I may be tempting fate by saying this, but I THINK there's a core group of 5 Lost characters (and another two just outside this inner circle) who are probably safe from summary execution. In that core group I would put Jack, Kate, Charlie, Sayid, and Sawyer; I think the interplay among them is so strong that the show (and the other 4 characters) would be weakened if any one of them were to leave. Just outside this group I'd put Locke and Hurley. After that, it's open season. I'd be sorry to see Michael or Claire go, for example, but it wouldn't kill the show.

[identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com 2004-12-10 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
NYPD Blue did what? *blink* Well, that sounds huh... intriguing. The show started airing again sometime ago over here and I thought I would give it a try since it's a cultish show and everything, but I'm afraid it didn't catch my interest at all. L&O on the other hand really works for me, the CI series in particular *g* SVU is a close second, but CI is my fave *g*

Oh well I really like your theory and would love for the writers to share it. It definitely makes sense so let's hope you're right *crosses fingers*

Law & Order

[identity profile] aswanargent.livejournal.com 2004-12-10 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, for me, CI is the L&O show I like the least. The stories are good, but I can't stand Vincent D'Onofrio and his mannerisms.

Re: Law & Order

[identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com 2004-12-10 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol I like CI so much for the exact reason why you don't - and that sentence sounds awful, but hopefully you'll understand what I meant *g* I really love Alex but I have a thing for quirky geniuses and Bobby is just perfect that way *g*

Re: Law & Order

[identity profile] aswanargent.livejournal.com 2004-12-10 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Je comprends parfaitement. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this!

As for Detective Eames, I first saw her on Oz where she played a woman sentenced to death for murdering her child. So I have some issues with her as well ... *lol*