Spoilers here, questions there...

[castalie]

So I'm still finding my way through Angel and I watched "Waiting in the Wings", "Couplet" and "Loyalty" last night and it's odd how painful the process can be at times. Watching those episodes is like watching a car wreck right before it happens and knowing there's nothing you can do to prevent it - you can only watch it destroy everything around it and bear the consequences. My poor Wesley! And poor Angel too, because I know, we're talking about his son, but my heart usually goes to Wesley first and foremost and seriously I ache for him right now because he's so lost, it's just painful to watch. And it seems the following episodes are going to get even worse? I hurt already and I'm not sure I want to see the rest yeah right, try to stop me! I love it when shows really make you feel, know what I mean?

Speaking of Angel? I have a question about why he didn't turn into Angelus after his son's birth? I don't know if we were given an explanation because I don't have this part of the season on DVDs and it really intrigues me because... it's just impossible that Angel didn't revert to Angelus after becoming a father, right? Or is it? I'm not a mother but isn't the moment when you finally see your child for the first time, when you hold them, touch them, smell them the happiest moment in your life? Isn't this supposed to be the most beautiful and intense moment of your life? So how come the curse didn't strike Angel at this moment?

Like I said I didn't see those episodes so maybe there was some kind of explanation, which I obviously ignore. Because in those episode after Connor's birth, if there's an adjective that would describe Angel, it's happy! He almost looks like another vampire. Or... is he actually so worried about Connor's life - considering he's a vampire!daddy and everything else happening around them - that he can't reach true happiness? But then... doesn't he himself admit that even the fear he has for his son isn't that terrible after all? That the joy of having him is stronger than even fear itself? Then again, I'm fairly new to the whole Angel-verse, so I may be missing something else altogether *g* So yeah, I really wish someone could help me with this. Well, I'll buy the missing seasons soon enough, though I have no idea when right now, so someone?

And speaking of spoilers? After talking with nekosmuse about QAF S5, I had to check out some new spoilers - I'm spoiler free as far as Lost is concerned and decided I'll try again with some future shows like, maybe, The 4400 - but QAF? No way. No can do *shrug* And those I found - if they end up being true - should keep things interesting, wow!

Comments

[rhianne.livejournal.com]

Guh...Waiting in the Wings just made me bawl when I first saw it. It was so beautifully made, and poor Wesley is just so devastated by what happens... ::sniff:: It's still one of my favourite Angel episodes of them all.

And am I inferring right from your posts that...you don't know what happens in the future episodes of Angel? Ooh, as a Wesley!angst fan..you are in for *such* a treat... *eg*

[scrollgirl.livejournal.com]

Mmm, I adore the Wes arc in late Season 3. Honestly, it just breaks my heart the way everything goes to hell in a hand-basket, but Angsty!Wes is so beautiful and painful that it hurts in a good way.

There's never been any real explanation for why Angel doesn't revert to Angelus. My thought is that, as much as Connor makes him amazingly happy, Angel doesn't have the... innocence (so to speak) he did when he was with Buffy. He knows the curse can happen at any time, and guards against it. Yes, Connor makes him happy but the Daddy!worry and Cordy!jealousy is enough to keep Angelus in check. Remember -- it takes PERFECT happiness to undo his soul. Perfect happiness is not exactly easy to come by. It's a very rare thing, as Wes says.

But keep this in mind if you ever get around to watching Angel Season 4. *hint hint* ;)

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

why he didn't turn into Angelus after his son's birth? I don't know if we were given an explanation because I don't have this part of the season on DVDs and it really intrigues me because... it's just impossible that Angel didn't revert to Angelus after becoming a father, right?

My own wanky reasoning is thuso: that while he was happy, it wasn;t operfect. Angel was too worried about what coul dhappen to CConner, and - maybe more importantly- he knows that the curse is happiness, and basically Angel can never LET himself be happy or he'll turn. So... I think the worry of that can stop him being happy enough to turn.

Also... why is this thing typing white on white? I CAN'T SEE MY TYPING OMFG!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

It's one hell of a good episode, alright. They seem to reach a new level of intensity and angst with each new episode, don't they?

And no, I don't know what is going to happen in the future episodes. Since Angel has been off the air for a long time here, I never got to really get into it and when people talked about it, I just ignored their entries because they wouldn't mean anything to me, you know? So I'm basically spoiler free for this series, too *g* Sooo, I'm in for a treat, huh? Oh goodie, can't wait!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

It's really heartbreaking, I second that. I also second the fact that angsty!Wes is a thing of beauty. It hurts so fucking much, it's quite impressive to say the least.

This Angel-not-having-the-'innocence'-he-had-with-Buffy actually pleases me as theories go - it would make sense yeah. At first I really didn't like the idea of him not becoming Angelus again --as twisted as it sounds-- because for a sec, it almost looked like making love to someone would actually give make you happier than having a child, and seriously I didn't believe in it for a second... but from that point of view, it definitely works.

Yes, Angel would definitely have so many worries and so many difficult responsabilities that it could definitely be stronger than the curse itself... as proven by the episodes, it seems *g*

And ohhh your little hint definitely intrigued me now!! But don't tell me, please, I'm spoiler free --as incredible as it may sound-- and I'd like to stay that way *g*

And thanks *g*

[castalie.livejournal.com]

A fucking glitch destroyed one of my customised colours and turned the whole thing white on white, which yeah, was fucking annoying - it's been taken care of, though, like two seconds ago because it drove me crazy too - so it's all good now - hopefully The Glitch From Hell won't attack my LJ anymore *glare*

It seems that that reason is the best that can be found, and yeah it would work. I mean, he's not your regular dad with a regular job and a regular life, I can see why it would put a damper on the whole happy-to-be-a-daddy business, I'll admit. Okay I concede, it works lol Thanks *g*

[circeoflatium.livejournal.com]

The 4400 is brilliant. See it!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Another positive feedback on that series? I'm quite impatient to see it *g*

[circeoflatium.livejournal.com]

It keeps you enthralled and wanting to see the next episode but series one ends with so many unanswered questions, it's quite frustrating having to wait a year!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

At least it hadn't been cancelled. Cause getting into shows which have been cancelled is getting old after a while - a year does sound quite a long time though *sigh*