Pondering

Dec. 22nd, 2003 07:18 pm
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Do you sometimes ponder about the differences from one fandom to another? I mean, usually, I don't really care, I read my fandoms, and in essence they're quite similar. I find the same kind of stories, just written differently of course - I eventually find the same intensity from TS to SG or XF for instance. Sure, I find more BDSM stories in XF - or I used to - and I wish they were more dark stories in SG, but overall, the hard core slasher in me is always satisfied by what I find in those main fandoms of mine.

And that's why I'm always surprised when I try the DS fandom again. Yesterday, I was recced a very nice archive - hey, there were Fraser and Torture in the title! - and after spending my night reading DS fics from said archive, I came to the realization that this fandom is really too tame for me.

Well, it wasn't that big of a revelation, I mean, I knew it already, but it just confirmed what I thought. I'm not saying the stories I read were bad, don't get me wrong, they were nice, well written, sure, and I'm not saying there is no dark stories in that fandom, of course not - but overall even the darkest of them were just... sorta tame to me. I really wonder where it comes from, this feeling. I mean, those stories are supposed to be dark, you know? And I didn't feel it. I saved lots of them, and only ended up with keeping a few, because even though they were good, well, they weren't what I look for in a dark or intense story. I think I've been totally spoiled with TS, XF or SG.

Still, I thank [livejournal.com profile] ckr and [livejournal.com profile] duesouthficrecs for pointing those stories *g*

Now, since I'm on the subject of stories I read yesterday night, the fics I found at the Library of Moria so didn't disappoint me! *schnuzzles fics*

They were really great. And I'm definitely in love with Aragorn/Faramir and Boromir/Faramir. I think I'm going to hunt those pairings from now on *g* Aragorn/Legolas is still great, but that I already knew, so it wasn't a surprise *g*

Also, my new partner in crime [livejournal.com profile] stalecorruption gave me a link to a BDSM LoTR archive, so see me smile - or see me smirk *eg*

Can you tell that I had a great reading night yesterday - and that there's a good chance I'm going to do it again tonight? *g*

Date: 2003-12-22 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashism.livejournal.com
I always think about the differences between my various fandoms, it really fascinates me! Like Buffy/Angel and the X-Files have this whole section of dark!fic just because of the nature of the shows can be very very dark, unlike say Stargate which I find is very...tame I guess, or light, compared to the XF/BtVS/AtS. Not to say there aren't really good darkfic stories in the SG fandom, but I think I was spoiled with the XF fandom where every fic I read seemed to have this level of intensity and maturity that the SG fandom lacks a lot of the time. I think I could go on forever about this!

Date: 2003-12-22 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
To me, and as far as my fandoms are concerned, the darkest is XF. I actually started with XF before moving to TS and SG. Well, when I say 'moved to', I don't mean that I abandoned it, I just added two new fandoms, and yeah, XF became third, but it's still definitely one of my three main fandoms.

I think, in a way, XF set the tone... I mean, I found all my kinks, all my button pushers through XF. Dark stories rock my world. Sure, I love reading nice or sappy stories, I enjoy them, but to me, the darker the better. So, XF was just perfect.

TS is nice as well, because we can find lots of dark stories, and I find enough BDSM stories to please the little pervie in me.

Now, for SG... well, that always intrigues me. I mean, seeing the possibilities, I never really understood why they were never more dark stories. We do find some of them, sure, I have them safely and lovely stored on disks, but I always thought that we didn't find *enough* of them, considering the possibilities. Maybe that's why I'm so proud of my very first SG fic- it was considered as one of the dark stories in the fandom. Me really proud *g* It's not the darkest, maybe, but still, it was considered as one of the good ones, so *shrug*

Well, apparently, I could go on forever about this subject too! lol

Date: 2003-12-22 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alinewrites.livejournal.com
Well, it wasn't that big of a revelation, I mean, I knew it already, but it just confirmed what I thought. I'm not saying the stories I read were bad, don't get me wrong, they were nice, well written, sure, and I'm not saying there is no dark stories in that fandom, of course not- but overall even the darkest of them were just... sorta tame to me. I really wonder where it comes from, this feeling. I mean, those stories are supposed to be dark, you know? And I didn't feel it. I saved lots of them, and only ended up with keeping a few, because even though they were good, well, they weren't what I look for in a dark or intense story. I think I've been totally spoiled with TS, XF or SG.

That's my problem. After being in Oz fandom, most of the other fandoms look a bit too smooth and tame to me. In Oz, even happy stories have a little harshness. I don't find this in any other fandom; except X-files maybe.

Aline2's home; tells you hi!

Date: 2003-12-22 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Yes, I thought of Oz when I wrote that entry. You sure come from a dark fandom. You must find pretty much every other fandom rather tame, indeed. Except XF, I agree with you, here!

Say Hi back to Aline2 *g*

Date: 2003-12-22 02:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Man, I love talking about the difference in fandoms. Must remember not to write an essay *g* But I guess you know what I think about this anyway. DS, not for me really. XF, probably the kinkiest and darkest that I read. Though Voyager used to have really dark fic, but most has been taken down :(

Shall I mention the latest? Of course I will. Popslash is *really* tame compared to media fandom. There are exceptions but most stories are mild angst opposed to the dark stuff that I usually love. Man, I find a darkfic in this fandom and feel like my birthday and Christmas has come at once!

Nice question!

Date: 2003-12-22 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Let's pretend we never talked about that particular subject, sis- shally we? lol

Yeah, STV has some pretty dark stories, and sometimes I put it right beside XF, but in thoses cases, it means I have Morticia's stories in mind. It's true that I love dark stories in STV, they don't disappoint!

Poor sis, victim of such a tame fandom *g* I guess sparkling boys can't be raped/tortured/abused like the rest? Too bad. Although, it sure makes you love the few dark fics you can find even more, that's true *g* I remember the rape fic you'd recced, and I also remember a kinky site that was pretty good, anyway- so there's still hope, right? *eg*

Date: 2003-12-23 06:10 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I guess sparkling boys can't be raped/tortured/abused like the rest?

Well they can, but it's just not the usual thing in the fandom. Which fits in with your point about the differences so well *g*

And yeah, there's always hope. I mean I write them don't I ;)

Date: 2003-12-23 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Now that you mention it. When are you going to write dark popslash?

Thinking of dark- still didn't read The End3. I'll try to do it tonight *g*

Date: 2003-12-23 10:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Now that you mention it. When are you going to write dark popslash?

It's funny you say that because I've been thinking about a bunny today, not really dark as such, but heavy kink if I can manage it. Just don't tell anyone because I'd be lynched as I promised other stories ;)

Talking of which *g* No hurry to read The End, I won't be writing it until New Year now. Plus SANTA'S COMING tomorrow! Did you know that? *g*

You have to celebrate, especially as you do it tomorrow, not read my stuff.

Date: 2003-12-24 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babycakesin.livejournal.com
*glares at icon* I'm so jealous of your icon right now! - I'm not on my computer therefore cannot iconize *pouts*

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