Buffy Galore
Mar. 28th, 2004 12:39 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
castalieStill there, Clark still alive. Let's hope it'll stay that way *crosses fingers*
Went to sleep around 5.00 last night - this morning - whatever. Mind you, technically, I should say I went to sleep at 6.00 am since our clocks went forward an hour for Summer Time. Anyway, I went to sleep really early this morning.
Why? Thanks for asking. Well, see, Andrew, Willow and Tara kept me up all night. It was wild *eg*
*giggles* Sorry, couldn't resist!
At first, I just wanted to watch a scene that's all. I wanted to see the scene in Seeing Red at the police station when Andrew has his mini breakdown about Warren leaving them. I really just wanted to see that one. Silly, I know. After all, I kinda know myself, I should have known that once I would taste it, I would want more. And it's exactly what happened.
I started with that scene of "Seeing Red", then watched the whole episode, and then moved on with "Villains", "Two To Go"> and "Grave", and uh it still wasn't enough so I sorta watched "Dead Things" too.
If I wasn't totally hooked on Andrew before, this little private Buffy marathon would have done it. As it was, I just got even more obsessed with him lol And the whole show, to be precise. Wow. Oh also, fell in love with Willow and Tara all over again.
Watching BtVS in English was one hell of a revelation. I always liked the French version, but it has nothing to the original one. The characters seem more... more serious, more adult, more mature. And Willow and Tara's real voices are really hot. And I really love Xander and Andrew's ones too.
Also, I'd forgotten how good S6 was. How good and dark too. I mean, I know Buffy isn't a fluffy show, but somehow I think the Troika gave a new dimension to 'evil', maybe because they were humans instead of demons or vampires. There's just something about them that is disturbing. To be both so immature, so childish and so twisted is pretty scary. They're really like little boys, with absolutely no idea about the consequences of their actions.
In "Dead Things", for instance, when Jonathan and Andrew suddenly realize what they were doing would have been rape, they are really frightened about the prospect and try to defend themselves, but it's really disturbing to think they didn't realize the serious of the situation sooner!
They're living in their own world, and each time they're brought back to reality, it's because something ended up badly, and each time it feels like they're going through cultural shock - but instead of trying to face reality and assume responsibilities of their actions, they just up the ante, and it gets worse and worse.
Something else that I love in Buffy is how each time someone important from the Scooby gang dies, Buffy's mother, Tara or even Anya, the scenes suddenly come back to the realm of reality. I don't know how to explain it. When they die, suddenly it feels real. There's nothing surreal, nothing supernatural anymore, it's real and we're not made to believe their death is just like any other vampire or demon's death.
Like Tara's death. It happens in less then a minute. We don't even realize what happened at first. One second she's teasing Willow, the second after Willow is covered with her blood and she's on the floor. And it's even more particular this time because someone used a 'human' weapon, as in a gun, against another human. It's definitely real, and natural in the sense that it's the kind of thing that - unfortunately - does happen, on a regular basis, too. Don't even know if I'm making sense here.
Now about Andrew. He's a wonderful character. Wonderful because he's portrayed with so many layers that it's sometimes difficult to follow him. And so many flaws, too.
He's so many things : childish and immature, the ultimate geek (I guess there may be 'geekier' geeks than him - or the other two -- but damn, it shouldn't be that easy to find) clumsy and so unsure of himself, totally dependent on others, heartbreaking, pathetic, but also intense, strong and determined when he needs to be - only it's not exactly his predominant trait. I loved the scene with the sword in the alley. He did back down in the end, but not before several minutes and even though they were three against him.
I swear I ached for him at times. Tom Lenk is such a great actor! There were several scenes that were heartbreaking to me, like the one at the station for instance, but there's also this one that I really loved in "Two To Go" or the next episode: it's when Andrew tells Jonathan they could start over, have their own team of two, that he'll obey Jonathan, he likes taking orders, and he practically begs him to tell him what to do. I know it's a pathetic scene, but I don't like 'pathetic', to me it's painful and so very sad. Andrew is really needy, and at this point he's lost and scared, and I just wanted him to be comforted by someone *sigh*
I'm not trying to excuse his action. I mean, even if technically he didn't kill Katrina, or Tara, he had his own part in all the drama - he never said 'no' loud enough, never tried to go against Warren hard enough. Of course, we could argue that he did it out of love, but still, as a result of his and Jonathan's inability to go against Warren, things kept on getting worse until it went way too far.
It's really as if once he suddenly learns that actions have consequences, he's incapable of facing them. It's too much for him - because, well, he never meant to do anything. Seems like he's repeating that a lot "But I didn't do anything". Feels like a game to him, or one of his endless favourite shows.
Poor guy. He has a lot to atone for, and I see S7 under a different light, I think. Sure, Andrew's part in S7 revolves in particular about his need to redeem himself after he kills Jonathan, but he has so many thing to atone for. Oh man, I love him so much *g*
Oh speaking of characters I love. Tara? I didn't remember her that much, after all. I really liked her, but somehow, I think it was through Willow. Thankfully I realized her character was so much more than just Willow's Girlfriend, and she's indeed one wonderful character. Strong, capable, loving and supportive. I really love too. And Willow, well I always loved Willow anyway, so nothing new to say here lol Their love story is plain beautiful and pure and hot... a wonderful combination. And it, of course, so much more painful when it tragically has to end.
Now, I'm going to get all of S6 and S7, and then, I'll go backward and start getting the other seasons lol But first objective : S6 part 1 *nods*
Oh boy, I didn't think it would be so long! lol Man, I do know how to ramble, do I? *blink*
Went to sleep around 5.00 last night - this morning - whatever. Mind you, technically, I should say I went to sleep at 6.00 am since our clocks went forward an hour for Summer Time. Anyway, I went to sleep really early this morning.
Why? Thanks for asking. Well, see, Andrew, Willow and Tara kept me up all night. It was wild *eg*
*giggles* Sorry, couldn't resist!
At first, I just wanted to watch a scene that's all. I wanted to see the scene in Seeing Red at the police station when Andrew has his mini breakdown about Warren leaving them. I really just wanted to see that one. Silly, I know. After all, I kinda know myself, I should have known that once I would taste it, I would want more. And it's exactly what happened.
I started with that scene of "Seeing Red", then watched the whole episode, and then moved on with "Villains", "Two To Go"> and "Grave", and uh it still wasn't enough so I sorta watched "Dead Things" too.
If I wasn't totally hooked on Andrew before, this little private Buffy marathon would have done it. As it was, I just got even more obsessed with him lol And the whole show, to be precise. Wow. Oh also, fell in love with Willow and Tara all over again.
Watching BtVS in English was one hell of a revelation. I always liked the French version, but it has nothing to the original one. The characters seem more... more serious, more adult, more mature. And Willow and Tara's real voices are really hot. And I really love Xander and Andrew's ones too.
Also, I'd forgotten how good S6 was. How good and dark too. I mean, I know Buffy isn't a fluffy show, but somehow I think the Troika gave a new dimension to 'evil', maybe because they were humans instead of demons or vampires. There's just something about them that is disturbing. To be both so immature, so childish and so twisted is pretty scary. They're really like little boys, with absolutely no idea about the consequences of their actions.
In "Dead Things", for instance, when Jonathan and Andrew suddenly realize what they were doing would have been rape, they are really frightened about the prospect and try to defend themselves, but it's really disturbing to think they didn't realize the serious of the situation sooner!
They're living in their own world, and each time they're brought back to reality, it's because something ended up badly, and each time it feels like they're going through cultural shock - but instead of trying to face reality and assume responsibilities of their actions, they just up the ante, and it gets worse and worse.
Something else that I love in Buffy is how each time someone important from the Scooby gang dies, Buffy's mother, Tara or even Anya, the scenes suddenly come back to the realm of reality. I don't know how to explain it. When they die, suddenly it feels real. There's nothing surreal, nothing supernatural anymore, it's real and we're not made to believe their death is just like any other vampire or demon's death.
Like Tara's death. It happens in less then a minute. We don't even realize what happened at first. One second she's teasing Willow, the second after Willow is covered with her blood and she's on the floor. And it's even more particular this time because someone used a 'human' weapon, as in a gun, against another human. It's definitely real, and natural in the sense that it's the kind of thing that - unfortunately - does happen, on a regular basis, too. Don't even know if I'm making sense here.
Now about Andrew. He's a wonderful character. Wonderful because he's portrayed with so many layers that it's sometimes difficult to follow him. And so many flaws, too.
He's so many things : childish and immature, the ultimate geek (I guess there may be 'geekier' geeks than him - or the other two -- but damn, it shouldn't be that easy to find) clumsy and so unsure of himself, totally dependent on others, heartbreaking, pathetic, but also intense, strong and determined when he needs to be - only it's not exactly his predominant trait. I loved the scene with the sword in the alley. He did back down in the end, but not before several minutes and even though they were three against him.
I swear I ached for him at times. Tom Lenk is such a great actor! There were several scenes that were heartbreaking to me, like the one at the station for instance, but there's also this one that I really loved in "Two To Go" or the next episode: it's when Andrew tells Jonathan they could start over, have their own team of two, that he'll obey Jonathan, he likes taking orders, and he practically begs him to tell him what to do. I know it's a pathetic scene, but I don't like 'pathetic', to me it's painful and so very sad. Andrew is really needy, and at this point he's lost and scared, and I just wanted him to be comforted by someone *sigh*
I'm not trying to excuse his action. I mean, even if technically he didn't kill Katrina, or Tara, he had his own part in all the drama - he never said 'no' loud enough, never tried to go against Warren hard enough. Of course, we could argue that he did it out of love, but still, as a result of his and Jonathan's inability to go against Warren, things kept on getting worse until it went way too far.
It's really as if once he suddenly learns that actions have consequences, he's incapable of facing them. It's too much for him - because, well, he never meant to do anything. Seems like he's repeating that a lot "But I didn't do anything". Feels like a game to him, or one of his endless favourite shows.
Poor guy. He has a lot to atone for, and I see S7 under a different light, I think. Sure, Andrew's part in S7 revolves in particular about his need to redeem himself after he kills Jonathan, but he has so many thing to atone for. Oh man, I love him so much *g*
Oh speaking of characters I love. Tara? I didn't remember her that much, after all. I really liked her, but somehow, I think it was through Willow. Thankfully I realized her character was so much more than just Willow's Girlfriend, and she's indeed one wonderful character. Strong, capable, loving and supportive. I really love too. And Willow, well I always loved Willow anyway, so nothing new to say here lol Their love story is plain beautiful and pure and hot... a wonderful combination. And it, of course, so much more painful when it tragically has to end.
Now, I'm going to get all of S6 and S7, and then, I'll go backward and start getting the other seasons lol But first objective : S6 part 1 *nods*
Oh boy, I didn't think it would be so long! lol Man, I do know how to ramble, do I? *blink*
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Date: 2004-03-28 04:34 am (UTC)BtVS is a very self-conscious show.. there are a lot of parodic elements in it, and just like you said, a lot of bringing to light the *real* side of things; not everything that happens make sense, like Tara's death was cruel and meaningless and sudden. *cries* (I loved Tara so much. <3)
And yeah, the Troika are far more cool than vampires and demons because they are human and not clearly evil as such,
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Date: 2004-03-28 10:04 am (UTC)Not everything that happens make sense, like Tara's death was cruel and meaningless and sudden.
*nods* Yes! Exactly. Twas so fucking sad.
The Troika are my favourite Villains from BtVS ever. Andrew in particular *g* Although... wait, I *really* loved Gloria (if I remember her name correctly) but maybe it was more because of excessive lusting... will have to think about that lol
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Date: 2004-03-28 05:46 am (UTC)Thank goodness, you said that!! I had totally forgotten that the clocks when forward last night! It's a good job I didn't have to be anywhere at a certain time today, lol!!
I loved Willow and Tara too, they were just so cute together in a 'meant to be' kinda way that I was devastated when Tara died :( !
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Date: 2004-03-28 10:01 am (UTC)Her death was so horrible. It was meaningless and just... too real somehow. I mean, it *was* good, indeed, but so very sad *sigh*
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Date: 2004-03-28 10:40 am (UTC)Also, I loved Tara. I kind of had bad Willow issues towards the end, but Tara? I adored Tara. Amber Benson is fantastic. Tara really came into her own in Season 5 and 6. How she comforted Buffy in the hospital after Joyce died. And her relationship with Dawn broke my heart. Willow and Tara became Dawn's parental figures and when Tara left the house, it really hurt Dawn. People kept leaving her and right through the time Willow & Tara were apart, Dawn kept seeing Tara. I was crushed when she died, loved her to pieces. And witness me having nothing to say about Kennedy. Because momma taught me that if you've nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all lol
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Date: 2004-03-28 02:56 pm (UTC)Hail to Willow/Tara, the relationship that was meant to be.
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Date: 2004-03-28 03:24 pm (UTC)Willow/Tara was a beautiful thing. Yes it was. **hails**
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Date: 2004-03-28 11:06 am (UTC)Heh. I've watched some in French, just to see what the voices were like, and Yes, I'll agree the originals are better, but I LOVE French!Spike (SO smarmy, hee!) and French!Drusilla? Wow. REALLY fits her character, the poetry of a romance language works much better for her than the melting-pot of English. And in English SN5's baddie was "Glory", short for "Glorificus", btw.
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Date: 2004-03-28 03:02 pm (UTC)You like French? Et tu le comprends bien, donc? Ou tu le parles, peut-être?
I love Spike's French voice. I was a bit disappointed when I heard his original one to tell the truth. And Drusilla is dubbed wonderfully *g* Sometimes the French language fits better this kind of character, I agree here too *g*
Gloria in the French version, Glory in the English one *takes note* Thanks *g* I really adored her too... I remember that. Hmm so S6 and then S7 and then S5... Nice program. And pretty expensive too! lol We'll see how long it takes me to achieve my goal. Then again, I'm the patient type, and I always thought anticipation was half the pleasure *g*
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Date: 2004-03-28 03:16 pm (UTC)Je parlais (parles?) Francais... ..non.
I had a year of it in school when I was SIX YEARS OLD, & then one semester when I was ten, which isn't really enough to do anything, but I can translate a LITTLE when I see it, or even pick out a word or two (*really* simple ones...) when I hear it...
um... donc? Do I comprehend well? No, not very...
Or you speak... peut-être? Nope, sorry, no idea, lol.
"Glory" is interesting, because "glory" is also a noun, fitting her perception of herself, as opposed to "Gloria" being just a name, though still reminiscent of the same word...
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Date: 2004-03-28 03:26 pm (UTC)Donc would be then or so --> tu le parles bien, donc? So you can speak it?/ You speak it then?
And peut-être is maybe. So far, I didn't meet a lot of Americans who spoke another language than their own, I have to admit *g*
'Glory' is interesting, because "glory" is also a noun, fitting her perception of herself, as opposed to 'Gloria' being just a name, though still reminiscent of the same word...
Well, yes and no, because Gloria is a name *and* a noun. It's the Italian for glory actually, so they still respected her huuuuuuuuuuuge ego *g* It's just that they couldn't call her Gloire which is the translation for glory but it so not a name... So Gloria it was *g*
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Date: 2004-03-28 04:10 pm (UTC)Interesting!
You're right, I was too young for it to stick much, but it inspired an interest in linguistics in me, which I'm sure has also contributed to my love of writing and words in general, you know?
I know smatterings (nothing like enough to be useful) of several different languages, and used to know not-quite-enough German to be semi-fluent, but I haven't touched it in years, so I'm afraid it's mostly faded.
Wish I had opportunity to properly learn French. And German. And Italian. And Chinese, Japanes, Korean, Gaelic, Russian...
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Date: 2004-03-29 01:44 am (UTC)In 6ème (11 years old) we take a first language; usually English or German, and when we're in 4ème (13 years old) we take a second language. German or Spanish for those who took English, and English for those who took German. Then we usually study Latin as well. Then when we go to high school, we can add new languages. I studied English and German in collège, and Chinese and Greek in high school. My sister took English, Spanish and Italian, one of my cousins studied English, German and Russian. My best friend studied Japanese and Dutch.
As you can see, we do have a lot of choices *g*
Then at university, you can learn every language spoken under the sun, from Korean to Inuit to Arabic and Swahili. Pretty cool stuff lol
It's too bad I don't remember enough now, I only speak English, and only understand some bits of German and Chinese. And my dad (therefore half of my family) being Italian, I also understand a bit of that language. But I'm so not fluent it's not funny *pout*
Like you I love foreign languages. Thanks to anime I fell in love with Japanese, and amuse myself with the words and expressions I learnt from watching all my DVDs in their original version lol I wish I spoke that language *sigh*
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Date: 2004-03-29 08:12 am (UTC)I *REALLY* wish I could speak Chinese, I'm friends with a Chinese restaurant owner who has taught me a word or three so we can greet each other when I come in, say thank you, etc., lol...
And wow. I knew Europe had a lot more language classes available in their school systems, that English was a requisite in many, but I had no idea you had THAT much available, lol! But isn't offering only a single year sort of pointless? Do you learn enough in a single schoolyear to be able to USE it enough to retain it? Interesting.
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Date: 2004-03-29 08:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-29 08:37 am (UTC)..so how much of your school day do you end up spending in language classes? My goodness, I'd never get anything else done, lol.
(See Jason? Austin St. John [actor who played him] speaks 4 different languages. I'll take this opportunity to repeat that the man is my idol and pretty much everything I'd love to be, lol)
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Date: 2004-03-29 08:55 am (UTC)LV1 (First foreign language) : 5 hours a week
LV2 : 4 hours
LV3 : 3 hours
LV4 (for those who wanted it. But I needed it for my Baccalauréat) : 5 hours - and now that you mention it, it was pure torture! lol
That's for high school, for collège, I guess it was less than that, I think.
Good idol you have here *g*
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Date: 2004-03-29 12:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-29 10:59 pm (UTC)Finally saw an interesting and enticing trailer for PoA. I was afraid they were going to mess the movie somehow. PoA is my favourite of the HP series, but apparently it's going to be a blast. We'll see *g*
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Date: 2004-04-01 02:42 pm (UTC)