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castalieI have the feeling I'm going to catch every bug under the sun this winter. Just a feeling; born from the fact that just two weeks ago I was sick and last night I came down with something again - something new, too. Because diversity is the spice of life and everything *rolls eyes*
I couldn't wait to be home, believe me, and finally watch SPN. Main observation isn't even about the boys this time but about Ellen and Jo.
Okay, when we first met Ellen and Jo I talked about how I neither liked nor disliked them - I felt indifferent towards them both and that it could go one way or the other. Well, I made up my mind - as in I think now that I don't care about Jo and, in fact, find her annoying and without substance. I don't know, it's as if they're trying too hard for me. It's like they're saying 'look, she might look like your stereotypical skinny blonde bimbo character but in fact there's more to her than that because we made her tough and sharp and cunning' but when I look at her, all I can see is how forced it looks. Not that it is per se - just that it's the way I perceive it. It feels artificial to me. I can only see the intent somehow, she doesn't seem real to me. I look at her and I see a stereotype trying not to be one. And I'm not sure I'm making sense here but I guess when it comes down to it, I don't believe in her character. At all. Having said that, I'm definitely not againgst changing my point of view later on in the series. In fact, I'd love to change my point of view later on.
It's not even the slasher in me speaking, btw, which is something that always annoys me a little. As if I couldn't dislike a female character for other reasons. I'm not even against a love interest for Dean per se - canon speaking, I'm not against the idea of him finding a girl who gets is, someone who knows where he's coming from, someone who knows his world. I'm usually not big on romance in non-romantic series, in particular when it comes between a dynamic I'm already in love with, but if it has to be done, I'll try to go with the flow - what is there to do? Except, if I don't believe in the ship they're trying to sell me, then it just won't work, it's simple as that. And if they really intend to sell me Dean/Jo? Well too bad because it's not working.
As for Ellen... technically I'd think the same thing of her except I'm totally transferring my love for Papa onto her. As in, she's like Papa's mirror character and I miss him a lot and so I look at Ellen and think female!papa and so I like her well enough. But I also dislike her because she's not Papa even if she's like him in a lot of ways and she won't ever be, period. Though at least she really feels strong and competent and smart to me. She has charisma whereas her daughter just doesn't.
As a result, if I had to ship someone with Dean? It'd be Ellen not Jo because I can at least see Ellen as more than a match for him - which is a nice understatement - when I just can't see it with Jo *shrug* Also, yes, I know I said that Ellen equalled Papa somehow - well, I rest my case *cough*
Actually wait, if I had to ship Dean with someone, it would be Faith from Buffy. Oh man, Faith/Dean? Talk about a hot pairing *glassy eyes*
As for the boys now. Dean cracked me up in the episode. The man can make me cry and make me laugh - I love that *g* He also has some brilliant lines! So he was Obi-Waned, wasn't he? Poor little guy *g* There were many scenes that I loved: his admitting he's afraid of Ellen - the delivery is priceless, as ever. The giving-away-the-Impala! The return of the Impala. The pimp van. The tell-me-the-truth scene with his little face and his trying so hard to keep silent but not being able to. The 'I call for a do-over' moment. Oh and the turning-the-gun-against-himself which was cool. Only, not in a good way, of course. Well, no, it was in a good way, just of a twisted kind? Yeah okay shutting up now! Also love when he's trying to protect Sam from Ellen's enquiries.
Sam now: he was back in full emo!mode. It's like I can understand how scared he is but his reasoning isn't completely sound. Every Chosen Kids has to turn evil? Where? Sure, Evil Twin was completely crazy and psycho but it's not as if Max never really had any reason to turn the way he did. I mean, not to excuse what he did but it's not as if he had a loving and stable and safe environment so I'm not sure his case should really count. Anyone could have turned the way he did - actually, sadly, a lot of people do. Just, without the scary telekinesis. As for Andy he was most definitely not a psycho or a murderer - or if Sam honestly thinks he is, then Dean is as well, which is another story altogether - and hi! Sam is not evil himself - well so far! - so, I don't know, just because one out of four Chosen Children turned badly doesn't necessarily mean anything. Though, of course, a fear is supposed to be irrational and if Sam was able to think it through, there would be no reason to emote and then there would be no angst. And angst is usually of the good, so okay. And it is a scary situation, this not knowing what The Demon meant exactly when he talked about his 'plans' for those kids; it's not that Sam shouldn't be scared, just that one out of four is actually kinda encouraging, in a way.
I'm waiting for Sam to start practicing, too. I mean, the three others did awesome things with their powers and Sam is the only one who's still being controlled by his own abilities instead of controlling them. He should start thinking of doing something here. On the other hand, the whole painful-visions thing is pretty cool so maybe he just should keep doing what he's doing, ie nothing.
Also, people keep talking about SPN and foreshadowing and, wow, one brother having to kill the other because he was turning to the dark side isn't exactly encouraging! I'm just sayin'.
Unrelated now, I have a confession to make. I've downloaded an episode of Brothers & Sisters. I was thinking of trying a new show and for a time I thought of giving The Nine a go as it sounded intriguing but I'm afraid none of the actors and actresses really appealled to me so I decided not to proceed. That's when I thought about Brothers & Sisters. Did you know I had absolutely no willpower as far as sibling shows were concerned? Well it's not exactly true but in this case I couldn't resist. There's a whole tribe here and there are father issues and mother issues and sibling issues and just all kind of issues and as it happens? I actually picked the episode where boykissing ensued. Yeah, I guess we slashers have a knack for that kind of thing? lol
But, anyway, so far - and bearing in mind that I have only watched one episode - my preferences lean towards Justin and Sarah. I don't know what to think of Thomas yet. I like Kevin. Kitty made me smile a lot and she seems a bit crazy, in a nice way, so I liked her well enough. Uncle Saul seems interesting - and it makes a nice contrast from his role in Alias - and Nora is... quirky, I guess, and the kind of person that might drive me crazy IRL, but that I can enjoy in a show. Just one of those things. Oh also, I'm hoping Scotty will stay *nods*
It's also funny because Brothers & Sisters have people from a gazillion shows! Six Feet Under, Ally McBeal, Alias, Prison Break etc etc...
I couldn't wait to be home, believe me, and finally watch SPN. Main observation isn't even about the boys this time but about Ellen and Jo.
Okay, when we first met Ellen and Jo I talked about how I neither liked nor disliked them - I felt indifferent towards them both and that it could go one way or the other. Well, I made up my mind - as in I think now that I don't care about Jo and, in fact, find her annoying and without substance. I don't know, it's as if they're trying too hard for me. It's like they're saying 'look, she might look like your stereotypical skinny blonde bimbo character but in fact there's more to her than that because we made her tough and sharp and cunning' but when I look at her, all I can see is how forced it looks. Not that it is per se - just that it's the way I perceive it. It feels artificial to me. I can only see the intent somehow, she doesn't seem real to me. I look at her and I see a stereotype trying not to be one. And I'm not sure I'm making sense here but I guess when it comes down to it, I don't believe in her character. At all. Having said that, I'm definitely not againgst changing my point of view later on in the series. In fact, I'd love to change my point of view later on.
It's not even the slasher in me speaking, btw, which is something that always annoys me a little. As if I couldn't dislike a female character for other reasons. I'm not even against a love interest for Dean per se - canon speaking, I'm not against the idea of him finding a girl who gets is, someone who knows where he's coming from, someone who knows his world. I'm usually not big on romance in non-romantic series, in particular when it comes between a dynamic I'm already in love with, but if it has to be done, I'll try to go with the flow - what is there to do? Except, if I don't believe in the ship they're trying to sell me, then it just won't work, it's simple as that. And if they really intend to sell me Dean/Jo? Well too bad because it's not working.
As for Ellen... technically I'd think the same thing of her except I'm totally transferring my love for Papa onto her. As in, she's like Papa's mirror character and I miss him a lot and so I look at Ellen and think female!papa and so I like her well enough. But I also dislike her because she's not Papa even if she's like him in a lot of ways and she won't ever be, period. Though at least she really feels strong and competent and smart to me. She has charisma whereas her daughter just doesn't.
As a result, if I had to ship someone with Dean? It'd be Ellen not Jo because I can at least see Ellen as more than a match for him - which is a nice understatement - when I just can't see it with Jo *shrug* Also, yes, I know I said that Ellen equalled Papa somehow - well, I rest my case *cough*
Actually wait, if I had to ship Dean with someone, it would be Faith from Buffy. Oh man, Faith/Dean? Talk about a hot pairing *glassy eyes*
As for the boys now. Dean cracked me up in the episode. The man can make me cry and make me laugh - I love that *g* He also has some brilliant lines! So he was Obi-Waned, wasn't he? Poor little guy *g* There were many scenes that I loved: his admitting he's afraid of Ellen - the delivery is priceless, as ever. The giving-away-the-Impala! The return of the Impala. The pimp van. The tell-me-the-truth scene with his little face and his trying so hard to keep silent but not being able to. The 'I call for a do-over' moment. Oh and the turning-the-gun-against-himself which was cool. Only, not in a good way, of course. Well, no, it was in a good way, just of a twisted kind? Yeah okay shutting up now! Also love when he's trying to protect Sam from Ellen's enquiries.
Sam now: he was back in full emo!mode. It's like I can understand how scared he is but his reasoning isn't completely sound. Every Chosen Kids has to turn evil? Where? Sure, Evil Twin was completely crazy and psycho but it's not as if Max never really had any reason to turn the way he did. I mean, not to excuse what he did but it's not as if he had a loving and stable and safe environment so I'm not sure his case should really count. Anyone could have turned the way he did - actually, sadly, a lot of people do. Just, without the scary telekinesis. As for Andy he was most definitely not a psycho or a murderer - or if Sam honestly thinks he is, then Dean is as well, which is another story altogether - and hi! Sam is not evil himself - well so far! - so, I don't know, just because one out of four Chosen Children turned badly doesn't necessarily mean anything. Though, of course, a fear is supposed to be irrational and if Sam was able to think it through, there would be no reason to emote and then there would be no angst. And angst is usually of the good, so okay. And it is a scary situation, this not knowing what The Demon meant exactly when he talked about his 'plans' for those kids; it's not that Sam shouldn't be scared, just that one out of four is actually kinda encouraging, in a way.
I'm waiting for Sam to start practicing, too. I mean, the three others did awesome things with their powers and Sam is the only one who's still being controlled by his own abilities instead of controlling them. He should start thinking of doing something here. On the other hand, the whole painful-visions thing is pretty cool so maybe he just should keep doing what he's doing, ie nothing.
Also, people keep talking about SPN and foreshadowing and, wow, one brother having to kill the other because he was turning to the dark side isn't exactly encouraging! I'm just sayin'.
Unrelated now, I have a confession to make. I've downloaded an episode of Brothers & Sisters. I was thinking of trying a new show and for a time I thought of giving The Nine a go as it sounded intriguing but I'm afraid none of the actors and actresses really appealled to me so I decided not to proceed. That's when I thought about Brothers & Sisters. Did you know I had absolutely no willpower as far as sibling shows were concerned? Well it's not exactly true but in this case I couldn't resist. There's a whole tribe here and there are father issues and mother issues and sibling issues and just all kind of issues and as it happens? I actually picked the episode where boykissing ensued. Yeah, I guess we slashers have a knack for that kind of thing? lol
But, anyway, so far - and bearing in mind that I have only watched one episode - my preferences lean towards Justin and Sarah. I don't know what to think of Thomas yet. I like Kevin. Kitty made me smile a lot and she seems a bit crazy, in a nice way, so I liked her well enough. Uncle Saul seems interesting - and it makes a nice contrast from his role in Alias - and Nora is... quirky, I guess, and the kind of person that might drive me crazy IRL, but that I can enjoy in a show. Just one of those things. Oh also, I'm hoping Scotty will stay *nods*
It's also funny because Brothers & Sisters have people from a gazillion shows! Six Feet Under, Ally McBeal, Alias, Prison Break etc etc...
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Date: 2006-10-28 01:07 am (UTC)OMG, yes, yes and yes! Sam telling him to shut up and Dean being all, I'm trying to! And Dean singing REO Speedwagon and the look on Sam's face, lol! *loves*
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Date: 2006-10-28 03:48 pm (UTC)and for making incest canon *snicker*
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Date: 2006-10-28 08:44 am (UTC)All of those made my heart explode with GLEE!
Sam now: he was back in full emo!mode. It's like I can understand how scared he is but his reasoning isn't completely sound.
Dude, I kinda wanted to slap him a couple of times there. Get over yourself, nothing can make you evil if you don't want to be.
I'm waiting for Sam to start practicing, too.
So with you there. All these "normal" kids practiced and Sam, a fucking hunter, isn't? Meh.
And I get you on the Jo thing, I'm kinda ignoring her for now, waiting to see what happens. Ellen oth is pure love. *g*
Did you know I had absolutely no willpower as far as sibling shows were concerned?
o.0 No way. You? Really? :p
I actually picked the episode where boykissing ensued.
No interest in Brothers & Sisters (yet), but I'm always up for some boykissing. Which ep was it?
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Date: 2006-10-28 09:03 am (UTC)all these "normal" kids practiced and Sam, a fucking hunter, isn't? Meh.
Dude yeah, put that way it's even worse. Sam has a potential powerful weapon on his hands - in his head, whatever - and he's not using it? Or maybe he just associates it too much with the demon and doesn't want to have anything to do with it, but imho it's actually more dangerous thinking that way. Better be the one in control than let himself be controlled by it. We'll see, anyway...
And I get you on the Jo thing, I'm kinda ignoring her for now, waiting to see what happens. Ellen oth is pure love. *g*
I kinda feel sorry I don't like Jo. I quite enjoyed the idea of Dean finding someone who gets it all, who understands him and his world, who can be a match for him. But Jo doesn't cut it for me. No, just no. Not at the moment, at any rate.
o.0 No way. You? Really? :p
Okay so I asked for it lol
ut I'm always up for some boykissing. Which ep was it?
Episode 5 :-)
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Date: 2006-10-28 09:25 am (UTC)*nodnod* But then again, Sam isn't all that good with logic when it comes to demon related stuff, so...
I quite enjoyed the idea of Dean finding someone who gets it all, who understands him and his world, who can be a match for him. But Jo doesn't cut it for me.
Apparently it's still only Wincest for us. ;)
Okay so I asked for it lol
Heh, yeah, you really kinda did. *squishes*
Episode 5 :-)
Thank you kindly. *g*
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Date: 2006-10-28 03:08 pm (UTC)Thank you kindly
You're welcome *g*
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Date: 2006-10-30 10:55 am (UTC)I totally agree with you! Ellen is so strong and charismatic. I hope her daughter will start looking a bit more like her in that respect, if she's to besome Dean's love interest.
Dean/Impala is love! I was exclaiming "oh mon dieu" when he gave Andy the keys!
And my little emo!Sam, I love him so much! His little bitch!face! His discussion with Andrew! *happy sigh*
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Date: 2006-10-30 03:12 pm (UTC)Hee when he gave away the keys I was like hee omg he just gave the Impala! He just GAVE THE IMPALA! And when he found her again, aw it was so sweet *melts*
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Date: 2007-02-03 04:41 pm (UTC)I don't care about Jo and, in fact, find her annoying and without substance
a-men. She's annoying, stereotypical, and not even worth hating. Which is a shame - surely Dean could do better than this! I agree with what you said about the mom, too - she's got something, and her daughter definitely doesn't. And yes, Dean is totally cute when he's scared of her *g*
then again, Dean is totally cute... I won't comment on every review, in order not to mess up with The Even, but come ooooon could he be any cuter? like in 2x02 when he destroys the car to let out his grief? or the whole grieving thing actually! I just wanted to hug him! (okay, I feel like that all the time, but what the hell)
*goes back to episodes*
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Date: 2007-03-04 12:00 pm (UTC)Yeah, I was pretty disappointed by how they portrayed Jo. Talk about a dull character even though she had everything to be a kick-ass one. Apparently she was more an experiment than anything else because when they saw what kind of reaction she provoked, and the fact that she was supposed to be Dean's Love Interest, well, they decided to change the whole potential storyline and so ta-da, it won't happen. The writers talked about maybe changing the way she was written but it's just sad that she'll finally get substance only once she's not a male love interest. Couldn't she be that before? Still, whatever.
Dean is... everything, and then some lol Not that I love his character or anything *g* And yeah, that scene where he destroys the Impala was so fucking painful to see! He and Sam kept breaking my heart in tiny little pieces this season... poor boys *hugs them*