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Work is being such an ass today. It was already cranky yesterday but today is even worse. It's even more frustrating that I'm this close to solve the bloody problem except it just doesn't want to cooperate and it's apparently determined to drive me a bit insane *smites*
And the flist isn't cooperating either since everything is about the latest drama. No porn of any kind, sadly.
I have to say that, as a whole, I usually don't trust Fandom as far as wanks go. I mean, you know how much I love, nay, how much I adore Fandom, but it's not exactly known for being reasonable nor is it known for its level-headness. Or, at least, that's how I see it. Not to say everyone will agree.
So I usually just wait for the drama to be over and for everyone to go back to the important things, namely write fics and speak about shows and, why, yes I do have my priorities right, why? ;-) Except that this time it seems the drama was actually justified?
Well, not to the extremes I've seen some people go - though, hey, everyone is entitled to it, just because I might not agree doesn't mean I think people are wrong in how they react to things - but I've read some of the latest news/articles that were linked on the flist, as opposed to just spread rumours, and I can't say I liked what I read here, I'll admit. I don't know, I'm waiting to see where the whole thing is going - if it's going somewhere - and hoping some of the things I read aren't going to become a trend on LJ...
But, see, I couldn't be upset over the whole thing because with fandom it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf; wanks and mass panic ensue so often for no reason that I never know whether I'm supposed to look at things with a closer look on not. And also, I guess I usually don't take certain things as seriously as some people do. So, again, I'll just wait and see how things go...
Still, I'll be impatiently waiting for theporn calm to come back.
And on other news; I finally have my very own SPN s1 box-set! It was released yesterday and I went there with my fake!bdayvoucher but very real money and treated myself with the thing. It's shiny and pretty and it's all spn all the time and it has extras and it filled me with glee :-)
ETA: I've always been curious as to how many fandom oriented journals there could be on LJ and, thanks to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
fandom_counts, we can now start to have an idea. As of this minute we're at 24061 24126 24127 24166 and counting. ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
greedy_dancer, I can sorta understand your obsession with the refresh thing now lol It's pretty neat seeing the figure rise with each new click!
And the flist isn't cooperating either since everything is about the latest drama. No porn of any kind, sadly.
I have to say that, as a whole, I usually don't trust Fandom as far as wanks go. I mean, you know how much I love, nay, how much I adore Fandom, but it's not exactly known for being reasonable nor is it known for its level-headness. Or, at least, that's how I see it. Not to say everyone will agree.
So I usually just wait for the drama to be over and for everyone to go back to the important things, namely write fics and speak about shows and, why, yes I do have my priorities right, why? ;-) Except that this time it seems the drama was actually justified?
Well, not to the extremes I've seen some people go - though, hey, everyone is entitled to it, just because I might not agree doesn't mean I think people are wrong in how they react to things - but I've read some of the latest news/articles that were linked on the flist, as opposed to just spread rumours, and I can't say I liked what I read here, I'll admit. I don't know, I'm waiting to see where the whole thing is going - if it's going somewhere - and hoping some of the things I read aren't going to become a trend on LJ...
But, see, I couldn't be upset over the whole thing because with fandom it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf; wanks and mass panic ensue so often for no reason that I never know whether I'm supposed to look at things with a closer look on not. And also, I guess I usually don't take certain things as seriously as some people do. So, again, I'll just wait and see how things go...
Still, I'll be impatiently waiting for the
And on other news; I finally have my very own SPN s1 box-set! It was released yesterday and I went there with my fake!bdayvoucher but very real money and treated myself with the thing. It's shiny and pretty and it's all spn all the time and it has extras and it filled me with glee :-)
ETA: I've always been curious as to how many fandom oriented journals there could be on LJ and, thanks to
fandom_counts, we can now start to have an idea. As of this minute we're at greedy_dancer, I can sorta understand your obsession with the refresh thing now lol It's pretty neat seeing the figure rise with each new click!
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Et puis tout le monde veut tout savoir en détail, pourquoi ils ont osés parler 5 minutes à un journaliste avant de faire un post sur LJ. Pourquoi aujourd'hui, pourquoi leur nouvelle policy, et blablabla...
because it's called customer service and they owe it to us paid members? i only got annoyed at LJ BECAUSE they didn't tell us what was going on. i don't know how it's like where you live, but if i had handled a customer complaint like that at work, i would have been fired on the spot. you do not handle customer complaints by issuing statements to the press or not telling them what is going on. and it's not only avant de faire un post sur LJ, c'est presque *24 heures* apres qu'ils ont post sur LJ.
e vois pas du tout, mais alors pas du tout, le rapport entre le slash (et le porn) et les mots "child abuse, rape, etc..."
neither do we! that was the whole point of all this, wasn't it? they deleted fandom communities (as far as i know, most of them were hp slash communities) and fandom roleplaying journals simply because they listed "incest" as interest. so, in other words, they did not make any distinction between child abuse, rape and slash. which understandably enough, led to fandom revolt.
LJ Abuse a répondu par email (et les emails ont été publiés un peu partout) qu'ils visaient la promotion d'activités illégales dans les profils et intérêts.
errr, those emails were sent to the owners of *fandom communities* (mostly hp slash) telling them that their communities had been suspended for doing EXACTLY THAT and would remain PERMANENTLY suspended. (of course, the latest news posts says otherwise, but it took them over 24 hours to change their decision.).
the omg they are going after slash rumours started after someone pointed out that Warriors for Innocence are homophobic (with proof) and therefore specifically targeted those communities. yes, it got out of hand because that's pushing it a bit for me too. and i do truly believe that the reason it got this bad ( i've had to endure pirates song and ugly macros all day!) is because of the lack of an official statement from LJ. had they done something to control the damage 24 hours ago, it would never have gotten this bad.
i'm not trying to change your opinion or anything, but i just felt the need to give my point of view. that said, fandom does tend to be obsessive and irrational at times so i guess there was a lot of overreacting as well.
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Je suis peut-être trop passive, ou naive, mais leurs excuses et leur promesse qu'ils vont maintenant reviewer les journals et comms (s'ils le font, évidemment) sont suffisantes pour moi. Je comprends les fans qui se sont insurgés contre les délétions, mais je ne comprends pas pourquoi ils ont tous commencé à flipper sur le slash et qu'ils continuent maintenant de raler avant de voir exactement les corrections entrepries par LJ.
Agir sur le moment, je suis pour. Tout le monde s'est bougé pour que LJ se rende compte de son erreur, et ça c'est une bonne chose. Mais maintenant que LJ s'est effectivement rendu compte de son erreur, ça serait bien de se calmer un peu avec les "On vous l'avait bien dit".
Quant à WoI, oui, ils sont cinglés, mais LJ a bien dit qu'ils n'avaient pas revu leur policy en fonction des directives de WoI, mais que ceux-ci avaient entrainés une remise en question et une prise de décisions par rapport à des problèmes soulevés par WoI. LJ n'est pas stupide, loin de là, et je crois qu'ils font bien la différence entre slash et pédophilie - et ce n'est pas un groupe de cinglés leur disant le contraire qui va les convaincre.
you do not handle customer complaints by issuing statements to the press or not telling them what is going on.
Et pourtant, combien de companies le font? Les conférences de presse servent toujours d'information pour les particuliers en même temps qu'une info pour les officiels, il ne faut pas se leurrer. Ca marche peut-être moins comme ça avec les petites entreprises, mais avec les grosses boîtes c'est toujours comme ça. Ils ne prennent jamais la peine d'envoyer les infos aux particuliers, laissent les gens dans le noir et leurs problèmes, jusqu'à ce qu'un discours à la presse donne quelques explications.
De toute façon je n'ai jamais dit qu'il n'y avait pas eu de gros problèmes et de grosses incohérences dans la façon dont LJ a traité le problème. Il y a eu un manque de communication, certes. Mais je ne vois pas pourquoi les gens n'essaient pas de se calmer maintenant qu'ils ont eu gain de cause.