Ohhh shippers *g*

[castalie]

Ooookay this is the first entry I wrote today? I don't think so. But whatever, if LJ wants to play it that way, why not? *shrug*

Just received A Dangerous Thing by Josh Lanyon - praised be Amazon. Too bad the prequel didn't make it home first though, because now I'm being tempted by this second book in the Adrien English series and I just know I'll read it even though I don't know anything about Fatal Shadows yet. To be honest, I usually love reading a sequel before the prequel, because should I end up loving #2 I'll be all the more excited to go back to #1 afterward and fill all the blanks. I know, I'm odd *cough*

Also hey, I read The Season of our Contentment and I was finally able to hear the voices of all the B/J moderates, ie the tolerant ones. Twas really nice, and I'm even glad on their behalf that they had the opportunity to make themselves heard.

Know what? I'm so used to having SG slashers on my flist that I never really think of how the shippers actually see the show. I mean, I just hear about all the wanks and the ship wars and that's it - and even those who like het on my flist are usually slashers first and hetters second. Then this morning I was friendsfriends surfing and found some J/S shippers' LJs and I read their reviews of some episodes. It's really cool - sounds like we're not watching the same show, not seeing the same characters. I'm not saying one view is better than the others, don't start with me - no, I'm just talking about how different groups of fans look at a same episode.

It's one thing to have different opinions based on the same J/D view, but here it was a whole new world. Just thought it was fun *g* And yes, I'm easily amused *nodnod*

Can you tell I interact with slashers 99.99% of the time?

Oh, babycakesin, did you know about that? I mean, the exact date? Are we in September yet? *bounces* There are soooooooo many DVDs I want! It's almost too much for my little fangirl's heart *g*

PS: Dennis Christopher, aka Lash in Cypher --TS episode, do I even need to add?-- plays in today's episode of L&O: CI. Still a psycho. Poor guy knows how to play them well lol

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[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

I'm the 1 remaining percent, hi *g*

No, I didn't know about that DVD set - and no, we're not in September yet - you be patient, will you? But you know, I don't think Star Wars was such a good trilogy... I mean, I'l have to see it again to set up my opinion, cause it's really tricky to make up my mind about Star Wars... And Han Solo... is he really that hot/good looking? See, I need to see it again. To check. ;)

[castalie.livejournal.com]

You didn't know about the set at all? Cool, so I was the first one to tell you *g*

Know what? I think you're right! I mean, it's been such a long time since I saw it, how can I be so sure it's actually the masterpiece everyone says it is? I think I may very well pre-order the set just to make sure no one steals it for me and stops me from checking it out for myself *cough*

[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

My dear, among the people I know, beside you, who could have told me that?

you won't stop me from wanting to lick Han Solo's lips This might be a good idea, doing ethnological research I mean

[castalie.livejournal.com]

You know, *you* could have told yourself... hmm from cruising the net and everything? Because I admit, beside me, I don't see who could have told you lol

Ethnological research, that's it! I already began since I read some shippers' LJs today, keeping the research with this SW thing shouldn't be too hard.

[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

Me? look for Star Wars stuff out of the blue? You have to be joking, ma chere... I mean, I hadn't thought about it in a while!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

It's a good thing I'm here to keep you on track then isn't it? *eg*

[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

well, yeah, kinda... I think I'm going to keep you friended after all

[castalie.livejournal.com]

You're too kind! I'll pull you out of my on-the-side filter and put back on the default one then!

[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

how sweet of you! I'm French too by the way :)

[castalie.livejournal.com]

You're French? OMG, I can't believe it! I mean, you speak English so good and everything, I just thought you were an American (Texan to be honest) trying to leave for Canada - where do you live then? Wow, a French user reading my LJ, that's so cool!

[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

I'm *this* close from kissing hitting you, you know that, don't you? For mentioning the Texas drawl *sticks tongue out*

I live in Montpellier, I have a cousin living in New York and another one about to leave for Australia or Africa... mind if I have a little nervous breakdown? baaaaaaah!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

No hitting you meanie! Or wait til I take the right paddle. But yeah, I'll keep the kisses *g*.

Nervous breakdowns are good, did you notice people had them a lot on LJ? I don't know your flist at all, of course, so I'm merely asking.

[babycakesin.livejournal.com]

Why do you think I have such a large hairbrush? *bats lashes*

I meant more "sobbing for a sec out of jealousy" than a 'nervous breakdown comme on dit d'nos jours' - but I'll settle for Han Solo in the meantime *g*

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

Then this morning I was friendsfriends surfing and found some J/S shippers' LJs and I read their reviews of some episodes. It's really cool - sounds like we're not watching the same show, not seeing the same characters. I'm not saying one view is better than the others, don't start with me - no, I'm just talking about how different groups of fans envision a same episode.

Ooh, anyone cool I should friend? ;) Personally I was shocked when a woman on samandjack said she didn't see the homoerotic in Abyss. Really, wtf?!

I could tell you where the cool S/J people hang. But then I'd have to eat you. And you're not vegetarian omg.

[castalie.livejournal.com]

I would tell you but I don't remember lol I mean, cruising the het side of the fandom is difficult as it is *eg*

Don't worry, I'll survive - and yeah, I'm not a vegetarian so you could get sick and we don't want that! Everyone knows slashers love fresh meat *eg*

[slb44.livejournal.com]

I am so a fan of L&O: CI. And I don't think I've seen the episode with Dennis Christopher which is making me very sad. Then, on the other hand, it means I've got a really good ep to look forward to. *g*

[castalie.livejournal.com]

*high fives*

I was a tad surprised at first at how much I enjoyed it. I mean, I thought I would love L&O:SVU more since a) the story lines just appeal to me very much and b) Chris Meloni plays in it - but as much as I love Meloni as Keller, I can't say I care that much about Stabler, or any other of the cast, so I love L&O:SVU because of the dark theme more than anything - whereas I love L&O:CI so much because the lead characters are so brilliant, and of course the plots are great too *g*

I'm in love with Bobby's brain and I absolutely *adore* Alex *g*

[slb44.livejournal.com]

It was much the same for me. I thought I'd love SVU not just because of the story lines, but Stabler and Munsch, but it doesn't do it for me, for some totally unknown reason. While on the other hand I just love CI. The stories, but especially the acting. All three of the male leads are just so damn fine at what they do and not hard on the eyes at all.

[french-hobbit.livejournal.com]

To be honest, I usually love reading a sequel before the prequel, because should I end up loving #2 I'll be all the more excited to go back to #1 afterward and fill all the blanks. I know, I'm odd *cough*
No you're not *g* it's like sharing a secret with the author, being in the know. It's why i like prequels a lot myself.

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Yes yes yes! And it also makes the discovery all the more exciting and intriguing since you know bits and pieces of what originally happened.

I just love that *g*

[surreallis.livejournal.com]

OK, I confess! I'm pretty much a het fan. I love Sam and Jack together. I even like Sam and Daniel together. It's just the way God made me!! *cries*

But anyway...

I do read slash, but pretty much by rec only. I'm not taken by it enough to wade through the bad to get to the good. My expectations for it are fairly stringent.

However, with some definite exceptions, I've pretty much found slash fans to be the funner fans. Funner... is that a word?

You're very right about the different views of the show. Being a multi-shipper, I can tell you that the S/J and S/D shippers see shows completely differently too. It is pretty interesting. I think there's room for everyone.

I promise not to squick y'all out too much with my het-ness! ;)

[castalie.livejournal.com]

I knew you were a hetter when I friended you, which officially made you the first real hetter on my flist. Well I have some who like it, but I think you're the first mainly-into-het-digging-a-bit-of-slash-from-time-to-time person on my flist! Boggles the mind, really lol

I think I may have been cruising your own flist btw - since I don't know that many hetters, it sure narrows it down.

There's definitely room for anyone, and I wish some people could hear you *eg*

Hey, you won't squick me, too much lol I mean, I knew what I would see when reading your LJ when I friended you in the first place, right? So I'll survive lol Besides, I'm sure you couldn't stop writing about het as much as I couldn't stop talking about slash *snicker*

[surreallis.livejournal.com]

Thanks! *g*

I think I'm unusual in that I can't understand why anyone would think that two gorgeous guys together isn't hot. I mean, come on.

Actually, after thinking about it for the past 15 minutes or so, I realize that what I really, really love is the slashy smarm. I love the team smarm especially, but the whole Jack/Daniel, H/C, slashy smarmy stuff... guh!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

That's where it's so funny because in my side of the fandom, thinking two gorgeous guys together is obviously the norm. Unusual vs normal... love me some different views on fandom *g*

Well technically smarm isn't slash but I see your point *nodnod* I'm an angst junkie myself, and Daniel Whumping was what first attracted in that fandom. To see Jack bring the 'c' part in 'h/c' was just the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen *eg*

J/D combined with h/c is my favourite recipe, without any doubt.

[surreallis.livejournal.com]

Ya know, I think smarm is defined differently between a lot of the ship camps too. I think I need to start my own category, lol.

[stacy-l.livejournal.com]

You interacting with slashers? Nah it's proposterous I tell you! I never would have guessed. Never, never...never! *vbg*

[castalie.livejournal.com]

I should have warned you when we first chatted, shouldn't I? I'm so sorry you had to hear it like this.

*giggles*

[stacy-l.livejournal.com]

Well I must say I'm definitely a bit giggly tonight myself. Isn't it funny how we finally managed to get on the internet about the same time? Now that's very scary indeed!

Oh I think there's something you should know about me...I'm associating with slashers all the time too. What can I say it's an addiction I tell you! *vbg*

[x5-536.livejournal.com]

It's really cool - sounds like we're not watching the same show, not seeing the same characters.
yeah well, i know a TINY bit about that. i discussed it once with sylverwind and she said that the things i see as slash in jack/daniel is what she sees as friendship in jack-daniel. what i "dismiss" and mere friend/teamleader care in jack-sam is what she sees as jack/sam and i thought that was awfully funny but that's just me.

as for B/J season 4, it's only episode 11 that i was kinda frustrated about. because this isn't the B/J show, it's QaF so they can't get all the screentime themselves. sure, they have less than season 1 and season 2 but that's ok by me, i just had to get over episode 11 and then remind myself that jack has very reduced screen time in season 6 and 7 of stargate sg-1 but that it doesn't matter much.

oh my brian. i am sooo pathetic.

[castalie.livejournal.com]

I don't know if you read the Season of our Discontent but B/J fanatics really went over the top for the most part, and it made their own side look so bad! Which is why it was nice for the normal B/Jers out there to be able to tell their sides of the story.

What gets me though is that people *always* include B/J in their questions, as if it was the only reason why you would like or dislike a season. I was like HELLO other people actually fucking enjoy other characters and pairings, don't we have a say in it too?

I mean the site I'm referring to is supposed to be QAF centric, not B/J centric - but damn they're doing a poor job with that! Oh well, c'est la vie lol

[x5-536.livejournal.com]

Season of our Discontent
nah it has spoilers through 414 and you know my stance on spoilers...i'll read it after i've seen the finale though!

i go through periods thinking that i only like qaf because of B/J but then i remember how cute emmett is and how much i love debbie's tshirts and realise that i'm wrong. and i love brian-michael too. i won't deny that it's a lot because of BRIAN but yeah, if it was just that, i wouldn't want to watch spiderman 2 just to see hal sparks speak two lines, right?!

[porntestpilot.livejournal.com]

Het? On Stargate? Not after Atlantis, there isn't.
Praise be to Cher. And RDA. ***love***

Yeah, it is a different show thing, like the fact that we can't figure out what show the Brian/Michael fans are watching, but I'm really glad I'm not seeing it.

[castalie.livejournal.com]

I heard about the J/D scenes in Atlantis, should make that premiere so much more interesting for me! lol

I actually know what show the Brian/Michael fans are watching, and I like to indulge in watching that show sometimes lol Even if yes, I'm a die hard Ben/Michael fan myself.

[porntestpilot.livejournal.com]

And you curse me for wanting the Daniel whumping to lessen? I see the double standards at work here.

Oh gah, Jack loves Daniel. Seriously.

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Double standards, moi? You wound me, lover!

They're so in love *happy sigh*

[porntestpilot.livejournal.com]

Aww, I did not mean too. **pet** I have another thing I want to send you that you can't mention to anyone, want it?

Must hide from half formed fic ideas in head. **afraid**

[ninkasa.livejournal.com]

I was finally able to hear the voices of all the B/J moderates, ie the tolerant ones.

Tolerant of what? *is confused*

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Tolerant of other fans' preferences, accepting of the fact that some people - lots of them actually, don't watch the show solely for B/J and sometimes don't even really care about this pairing.

There's this consensus that seems to imply that QAF is the B/J show and if you watch it, it's just for them, and if you do watch it for another character or heaven forbid another pairing, then you're just a moron who doesn't understand anything.

Obviously it's not the opinon shared by 100% of the BJ/ fans, but it was nice to hear those B/J moderates express themselves and show everyone that all B/J weren't rabid fans who didn't care about others *g*

QAF has enough characters and pairings to satisfy everyone - disersity is the spice of life, and the life of a fandom, after all *g*

[ninkasa.livejournal.com]

Oh, I see. Okay. I thought it was like, tolerant of B/J, I'm like, "Huh?".

Yeah, the fandom's big enough to go around. :)