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castalieTypical. I just changed my status on Y!M into 'Busy slaving away studying exams', and here I am, updating my LJ! *shakes head*
To my defense, I'll say that Book #2 that I was supposed to start today is actually finished. I read it last night. So there.
Actually, I was just pondering about something - I read an SG fic this morning, and I'd like to know what is the deal with Jack calling Daniel 'Danny'? I just don't understand. I actually read a fic the other day that warned the readers about Jack using the nickname 'Danny' in the story - I mean, it was on the damn warning! Imagine the thing? Warning : non-con, violence, and Jack calls Daniel 'Danny' once or twice. Heed the warnings if that's not your thing. This is pretty incredible, IMHO.
Americans use nicknames all the time, don't they, like on TV that is? I mean, more often that not, in a show you'll find that the nickname rule applies. And yes, like![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
babycakesin told me, it's not an 'always happens' kind of rule. So, very often, it's not James, it's Jim, and when it's not Jim, it's Jimmy. Jonathan becomes John which becomes Johnny, or it just turns into Jack. Richard becomes Rick or even Dick (I mean, it might be old fashioned now, I don't know, but still). William often turns into Bill, which in turn becomes Billy, and so on and so forth.
So what is the deal with Jack, of all people, calling Daniel 'Danny' from time to time, I wonder? I mean, we're talking about Jack here, the man who gives the cutest and/or most improbable nicknames to his favorite archaeologist all the time! Do 'spacemonkey' and 'Plant Boy' ring a bell? Plus, let's say I'm talking from a slash POV here- so now, Jack can't even use that name for his lover? I don't think Jack uses all those nicknames in a patronizing way, it's just something he does, and it's damn cute. So what's the deal? In particular to the man he loves *glassy eyes at the mention of Jack loving Daniel*
*pulls herself together* Where was I? Oh yeah - plus, if I remember correctly, Jack did call Daniel 'Danny' at least once canon. And usually, what has been said/done at least once in an episode becomes game as far as everyone is concerned in the fandom. So I really would want to know why some people react so strongly at the mere mention of the infamous nickname. I mean, I remember reading about someone who actually stopped reading when she encountered it.
Sometimes - yeah, know what? Sometimes, I feel like people are underestimating Daniel somehow - and I know it's not true, but it feels that way to me sometimes. They can't stand the thought of him being bottom because it would make him 'weak'- yeah, right! And some don't want him to be called 'Danny' because it's demeaning and childish. Well, I for one don't mind at all - in case you didn't know already lol I never thought Daniel being bottom would make him weak, and I'm pretty stunned that people would even think that, and I don't think him being called Danny makes him a child. Nicknames are used to show affection, and really, if someone attracts affection, it's Daniel, IMHO. And I'm not saying this because I'm crazy about the guy - or maybe a bit, but let's pretend it doesn't count, for conversation's sake, all right? lol
Anyway, just wanted to talk about that little thing *cough* Now, if you're one of those Jack-calling-Danny haters, I wouldn't mind hearing what you think of the thing. Obviously we won't agree, but that's not the point and it's okay- I'm just curious *g*
To my defense, I'll say that Book #2 that I was supposed to start today is actually finished. I read it last night. So there.
Actually, I was just pondering about something - I read an SG fic this morning, and I'd like to know what is the deal with Jack calling Daniel 'Danny'? I just don't understand. I actually read a fic the other day that warned the readers about Jack using the nickname 'Danny' in the story - I mean, it was on the damn warning! Imagine the thing? Warning : non-con, violence, and Jack calls Daniel 'Danny' once or twice. Heed the warnings if that's not your thing. This is pretty incredible, IMHO.
Americans use nicknames all the time, don't they, like on TV that is? I mean, more often that not, in a show you'll find that the nickname rule applies. And yes, like
babycakesin told me, it's not an 'always happens' kind of rule. So, very often, it's not James, it's Jim, and when it's not Jim, it's Jimmy. Jonathan becomes John which becomes Johnny, or it just turns into Jack. Richard becomes Rick or even Dick (I mean, it might be old fashioned now, I don't know, but still). William often turns into Bill, which in turn becomes Billy, and so on and so forth. So what is the deal with Jack, of all people, calling Daniel 'Danny' from time to time, I wonder? I mean, we're talking about Jack here, the man who gives the cutest and/or most improbable nicknames to his favorite archaeologist all the time! Do 'spacemonkey' and 'Plant Boy' ring a bell? Plus, let's say I'm talking from a slash POV here- so now, Jack can't even use that name for his lover? I don't think Jack uses all those nicknames in a patronizing way, it's just something he does, and it's damn cute. So what's the deal? In particular to the man he loves *glassy eyes at the mention of Jack loving Daniel*
*pulls herself together* Where was I? Oh yeah - plus, if I remember correctly, Jack did call Daniel 'Danny' at least once canon. And usually, what has been said/done at least once in an episode becomes game as far as everyone is concerned in the fandom. So I really would want to know why some people react so strongly at the mere mention of the infamous nickname. I mean, I remember reading about someone who actually stopped reading when she encountered it.
Sometimes - yeah, know what? Sometimes, I feel like people are underestimating Daniel somehow - and I know it's not true, but it feels that way to me sometimes. They can't stand the thought of him being bottom because it would make him 'weak'- yeah, right! And some don't want him to be called 'Danny' because it's demeaning and childish. Well, I for one don't mind at all - in case you didn't know already lol I never thought Daniel being bottom would make him weak, and I'm pretty stunned that people would even think that, and I don't think him being called Danny makes him a child. Nicknames are used to show affection, and really, if someone attracts affection, it's Daniel, IMHO. And I'm not saying this because I'm crazy about the guy - or maybe a bit, but let's pretend it doesn't count, for conversation's sake, all right? lol
Anyway, just wanted to talk about that little thing *cough* Now, if you're one of those Jack-calling-Danny haters, I wouldn't mind hearing what you think of the thing. Obviously we won't agree, but that's not the point and it's okay- I'm just curious *g*
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Date: 2004-01-21 04:22 am (UTC)as for the nickname things, I don't agree: not all americans use nicknames! (and some US *hate* to be nicknamed, it's not just me) if it's canon, of course, nickname rule applies, but don't generalize: not everyone is into nicknames. It's pretty much like Pepsi v. Coke: each has preferences I guess
lol I can't imagine them calling Daniel "Danny" in the French dubbing - "Danny, que pensez-vous de cela?" lol
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Date: 2004-01-21 04:34 am (UTC)Sure, I should have mentioned, that in a lot of *shows*, the nickname rule applies. Maybe I'll edit the thing lol But I guess it's also a way to make us more 'intimate' with the characters...
Oh man, yeah, I can see that 'Danny, ne touchez pas à ça' ou 'Danny, qu'avez-vous encore fait'? lol Oh c'est atroce!
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Date: 2004-01-21 04:38 am (UTC)I think I'm getting back into LJ business quite nicely actually ^^ commenting and spamming - I'm even answering a meme! me happy to be back on CL (did I mention that I missed you? cause I really did *huggles*)
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Date: 2004-01-21 04:43 am (UTC)And did you tell me you missed me? Once or twice *eg* But it's a good thing cos I sure did too!
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Date: 2004-01-21 04:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-21 04:52 am (UTC)Oh yeah, you noticed about that, uh? Well, what can I say, I really tried to go back to my books, but I can't seem to focus somehow. So my books and I are on a break!
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Date: 2004-01-21 04:55 am (UTC)