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Would someone please tell my internet connection that disappearing on me is very dangerous for my health - physical and mental - and that it should stop doing it? Why, oh why do you hurt me so, Livebox! You've been such a good girl all this time, why the sudden rebellion? *clings*

Anyway. So. Is anyone out there watching New Amsterdam? I know I shouldn't expect anything from that show or its future - or the lack thereof - but I'm quite enjoying it. In a Moonlight kinda way? Well, I think it's better than Moonlight but then it's not exactly difficult to be better than Moonlight, so I don't know... NA is ridden with cliches but I don't care... and I really like John, Omar and Eva, which is always the clincher for me. Give me a show - good or lame - with characters I can believe in, and I'll watch it. And if you give me some nice character dynamics, I'll keep watching.

Speaking of which... when I watched the pilot, I tried to see whether one could find slash in the show and I came up with some nice Omar/John - because a) it's not as if we had that many pairing choices to begin with and b) those two seemed to have a great relationship, one that went way back, and I thought it would work.

And I was all proud of myself for finding a pairing that isn't incesty in nature. Then 1x02 happened and ha! They're actually father and son! I'm attracted to the 'cest, dude, it's not my fault! I tried to find a 'regular' pairing and turns out it's actully daddycest! I guess I just have to admit defeat.

But, seriously, now. That was such a great twist! I mean, I hadn't seen that one coming, Omar being John's son as opposed to step-son - not that he would have loved him less or anything but I was surprised at the idea of them being actually blood related. Which is all HL fault, btw. Because in my mind, immortals can't have children... which, okay, John is a different breed of immortal altogether, so I have no idea why I was so HL focused, but there you have it.

So. Yeah. John is Omar's father... that was awesome. It can bring so much angst! And I love the idea of John keeping his kids close to him... I mean, we only have those two examples - Omar and Maggie - but I like the idea of him keeping his family close as long as he can. Though, again, it must be so hard too; to see his children grow old, and then one day to have to bury them... does he have their pictures hidden somewhere, I wonder?

I think I'd love a fic about the day when Omar stopped calling John 'Dad', it would be a fic about John watching as his son grows older, then reaches his age and finally gets older than him. Actually, I think I'd also love a fic where present!Omar does call John 'Dad'... for whatever reason.

Yes, I can ramble about shows even when they're less than stellar and probably doomed to a quick death; it's a gift.

I promise I won't write the fic I mentioned under the cut though. Plus, if I have to write in a new fandom - one of my beloved one shot thing - it'll be T:TSCC, anyway. I had this little scene that popped into my head the other day... I'll keep it stored somewhere for future reference. Plus² if I have to write something, I think it'd better be the first/last section of my latest Night!fic.

And this has nothing to do with anything, except I'm still talking about TV, so I'm not completely off topic, they're airing s4 - I think it's s4 - of Gilmore Girls at the moment, and whenever I watch the opening credits and see Jared Padalecki followed with Milo Ventimiglia, it feels like reading a RPS AU fic of sorts. Makes me smile each time.

Date: 2008-03-12 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maaaaa.livejournal.com
Plus² if I have to write something, I think it'd better be the first/last section of my latest Night!fic.

Ya think?!?! ::taps foot imatiently:: Don't make me get out my ruler, young lady. *smooch*

Date: 2008-03-13 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Wait! You know what happens when someones promises threatens to spank me, I get all flustered and then I can't concentrate! Might not be the best idea. If you want me to start writing, I mean!

Date: 2008-03-12 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sockich.livejournal.com
Is anyone out there watching New Amsterdam?

I am! :D

And I was all proud of myself for finding a pairing that isn't incesty in nature.

Ahaha, that's really sort of awesome. Though, tbqh, the only reason I didn't do the same is probably because I watched ep 2 right after ep 1, so I didn't have time to contemplate any pairings. ;)

And I love the idea of John keeping his kids close to him

*nods* Me, too.

Another thing I love is how John always tells the truth about his life i.e. he's been around for 350 years and he says he's been around for 350 years. It's not his fault if people don't believe him.

*sends out encouraging fic-writing vibes*

Date: 2008-03-13 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
I am! :D

That's because you have great taste. And also because we share the same tv!brain, apparently *g*

Another thing I love is how John always tells the truth about his life i.e. he's been around for 350 years and he says he's been around for 350 years.

He does, doesn't he? That cracks me up a bit. I'm like 'do you really want Eva to figure it out?'

I like how eccentric it makes him to others... the guy who's always saying all those crazy and silly things. In such an easy and honest way, too :-)

*sends out encouraging fic-writing vibes*

Thanks!

Date: 2008-03-13 04:36 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Blair2 (joeyrz))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I was giggling away at your Moonlight reference, then Night fic!

NIGHT FIC! This brings me joy!

Date: 2008-03-13 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Night fic! I'm 9,000+ words into it, I only need the first section - which happens to be the last - and I'm done! Why can't I write it?! *taps foot*

Date: 2008-03-13 05:44 pm (UTC)
spikedluv: (misc: fandoms-sane_feusch)
From: [personal profile] spikedluv
Yes! Finally! I thought I was the only one on my f-list watching (and enjoying) New Amsterdam. I will admit that episode 2 was much better, imo, than the first ep, in part because it answered some questions I had after watching the first ep that made me think I might not like (understand, get) the show.

I never saw that coming, either! I thought it was so awesome! I'd figured that he and Omar were buddies who played Jazz together, or something, who he'd trusted with his secret. And I loved the flashbacks re Omar's mother.

When Omar asked, 'what about my mother?', I was like, yes, thank you! because that had been my biggest issue about the show, that John had married all these women knowing they weren't The One, but finding out that he'd fallen in love with all of them, and thought that each of them might have been The One made me feel much better. And my heart might have squooshed just a little bit when he showed Omar the inscription to his mother, that she'd always be the one. *sniffle*

Have you seen the third ep yet? That twist there at the end, I didn't see that one coming, either! *g*

And also, T:TSCC fic maybe? Yay!

Date: 2008-03-13 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Have you written a review about NA or something? Cause if you have, I've missed it and I would love to read it. Not many people even mention the show on my flist, so that would be nice :-)

The second episode was much better than the first, I agree. It's my favourite of the three at the moment.

I love that they made John and Omar father and son! That was such a lovely twist. Happy to hear I'm not the only one it surprised, btw :-)

And I can totally believe that John actually loved his wives; even if they weren't The One. Love comes in many forms, after all, right? Plus, if he thought they might be It, it makes his relationship with them sweeter, even, I agree.

I've seen the third ep, yes. Ha, I never thought she would be married! I mean, it's such an obvious ploy, but I was so focused on her being John's soulmate, that I hadn't realised she might actually be married to someone else! Oh the drama!

I'm not promising anything at all; like, seriously not, but I do have a little scene that I'd love to turn into something more, so who knows? :-)
Edited Date: 2008-03-13 08:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-14 08:21 pm (UTC)
spikedluv: (scc: john_dirtybadwrong_spikedluv)
From: [personal profile] spikedluv
No, my comments about it were made in another gal's journal, but she hated the show, so it was a pretty one-sided discussion. *g*

Yes, the second episode sold me on it. One thing I really like is that he might be a cop now, but he has been many different things in his lifetime(s). One thing I hated about the first ep was that he had an answer (based on previous experience/knowledge) for EVERYTHING. The flashbacks in the second and third ep didn't bother me as much because the were, I don't know, more subtle? Less in-your-face? Or maybe because he was less of a know-it-all.

I just sat there gobsmacked when John was all, "I'm still your father," lol. I loved it!

And I can totally believe that John actually loved his wives

Oh, yes, but during the first ep, it was all about finding The One and they weren't very clear on how he'd know she was The One, so I got this impression of him flitting through life having affairs with women he didn't care about while waiting for The One to come along. Once I found out that he fell in love with each of them, thought that each of them might have been The One, I was a much happier gal. *g*

I totally didn't see the already-married thing coming, either! I loved it, except for the fact that it means her hubby will have to have an untimely death, unless meeting The One doesn't require having sex, getting married, all that jazz. *g* Also, I loved the twist because I was not looking forward to a show that was all about him getting together with his One; I was afraid it would be boring. *g*

(I'll keep an eye out, just in case you do write it. *g*)

Date: 2008-03-15 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
One-sided discussion; well hopefully we'll be able to discuss the upcoming episodes together :-)

Less in-your-face? Or maybe because he was less of a know-it-all.

That's the problem with pilots, they're sometimes to heavy handed. Exposition is one thing but sometimes it's just a bit too much. Even the pilot of my favourite shows sometimes make me cringe a bit when I think about that particular aspect.

I just sat there gobsmacked when John was all, "I'm still your father," lol. I loved it!

That was such a nice touch; makes things more intense. Which I love *g*

Ditto with Sarah being married. It's a shame because now her poor husband is kinda doomed - except if a big new twist occurs - but it does make things more interesting. Poor John!

Date: 2008-03-15 12:48 am (UTC)
spikedluv: (na: john_newamsterdam_bakarini)
From: [personal profile] spikedluv
I found some New Amsterdam comms today:

[livejournal.com profile] na_secrets (meta)
[livejournal.com profile] nieuw_amsterdam (screencaps, fic, icons, etc)
[livejournal.com profile] newamsterdamfic (not much fic yet)
[livejournal.com profile] john_amsterdam (not as active)

[livejournal.com profile] na_secrets had an interesting discussion on whether the doc is really The One, or if it might be the other new lady in John's life. *g*

Date: 2008-03-15 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
Thanks for the links!

Date: 2008-03-14 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetjinx.livejournal.com
I'd never even heard of New Amsterdam. What's it about? It sounds exciting! (Well, the daddycest certainly.)

Date: 2008-03-14 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
I don't know about exciting, but it's nice :-)

New Amsterdam (http://www.fox.com/newamsterdam/) tells the story of John Amsterdam who was gifted with immortality 350 years ago after he saved a woman - Native American - and who'll only grow old the day he meets The One, his One True Love.

It's basically a love story. Except it's also a sort of cop show too because John is a detective in NY so you follow the cases he tries to solve with his new partner, Eva.

As for the daddycest - since you now know about the twist in 1x02 - in the pilot we meet Omar, owner of a bar and obviously a long time friend of John's. Right from the start you can see the friendship/bond between them and you realise they've known each other for a long time cause there's a picture of them when Omar was young - he's 65 yo now.

Except in the second episode we actually find out that Omar is John's son, thus turning a perfectly innocent non!cesty pairing into an actually daddycest pairing. Just one of those things, I guess *g*

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